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Craig_and_Wills Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:00 pm Post subject: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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We have a 1970 Beetle, and we are trying to remove the left rear axle nut, the right side came off. Cotter pin has been removed, liberal application of Kroil and liquid wrench. 36 mm socket on a 3/4" drive on a 18" breaker bar, with a 3' long cheater pipe. 2x2x1/8" angle iron has been machined and attached to drum using lug nuts and the above mentioned breaker bar and application of muscles in a counterclockwise direction has not broken the nut loose. The nut is a right-handed thread. We have used a cold chisel to try and move the nut along. The nut has not taken so much damage that you cannot put a socket on it. HELP!
Considering purchasing a "torque meister"
Any other advice? |
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scottyrocks Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2016 Posts: 2645 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Mine needed a week of jumping on the breaker bar with reapplication of PB Blaster/Kroil/ATF fluid mix.
After about 6 days it popped loose. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
– D. Tartt, 'The Goldfinch' |
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vwoldbug Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2009 Posts: 1214 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Either the torque meister or a big air impact and then a torch that will get the axle nut red hot . If the car movable maybe take it to repair shop . |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32432 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Jrm1080 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2012 Posts: 104 Location: Phoenix, Az
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Slide over your 36mm nut. Apply constant pressure with 1/2” breaker, no cheater necessary. Then whack the shit out of it with a miimum of a 3lb sledge. Presto.
I think I paid less than $10 for mine. _________________ -Constant over thinker
-Figuring it out as I go. (With lots of Samba inquiries)
•’67 Type I mostly original semi daily driver (temperature permitting 🔥☀️)
•’74 Type I work in progress. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26740 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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If the nut won't turn cut it off.
Just grind it down till you kiss the threads, and it will give up then.
Nuts are less expensive than ruining the axle.
All are right hand thread. |
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bhartwell59 Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2014 Posts: 788 Location: dallas, tx
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:05 am Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Yep, the nuts are righty tighty, lefty loosey.
I like jkeev's idea: in gear and gently let the car crawl with the socket/breaker attached.
The Torquemiester is good ($65?) but how often are you gonna take an axle nut off? _________________ '74 Zambezi green Ghia vert, autostick, 101k
'87 Jeep Wrangler, 4.2, 330k |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13842 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Try taking it to a truck tire repair shop and let them have a shot at it with high pressure air impact. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5364 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Never had an axle nut that the "torque meister" tool couldn't get off.
The whack tool above can be hard on the wheel bearings. _________________ Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
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Tom K. Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Instead of a 3' cheater pipe, I once used a segment of 8' pipe that my kids use for a volleyball net. Stand on the end of that and the nut *will* come loose. My wheels are on the ground chocked with everything I could find to keep them from turning, the emergency brake on, and a kid pushing on the brake pedal.
Then, before putting it back on, clean the threads out real well and smear a little grease on the threads. Next time will be much easier. _________________ '91 Vanagon Westfalia
'70 Beetle Convertible
'71 Super Beetle Semi-Automatic: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=714131&highlight=
'65 Ghia: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=762478&highlight= |
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markholland8 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2016 Posts: 149 Location: United Kingdon
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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are both sides lefty lucy and righty tighty I got off LHR hubnut using lefy lucy but cant get off right hand side. So what I am asking is both nits should come off by loosening towards front of car. Thanks |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5986 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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markholland8 wrote: |
are both sides lefty lucy and righty tighty I got off LHR hubnut using lefy lucy but cant get off right hand side. So what I am asking is both nits should come off by loosening towards front of car. Thanks |
they are both standard thread. Rotate nut counterclockwise to loosen. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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markholland8 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2016 Posts: 149 Location: United Kingdon
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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sjbartnik wrote: |
markholland8 wrote: |
are both sides lefty lucy and righty tighty I got off LHR hubnut using lefy lucy but cant get off right hand side. So what I am asking is both nits should come off by loosening towards front of car. Thanks |
they are both standard thread. Rotate nut counterclockwise to loosen. |
Many thanks guess I have my work cut out lol. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31268 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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markholland8 wrote: |
are both sides lefty lucy and righty tighty I got off LHR hubnut using lefy lucy but cant get off right hand side. So what I am asking is both nits should come off by loosening towards front of car. Thanks |
Both sides are right hand thread, so counterclockwise to loosen. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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TX-73 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2013 Posts: 1133 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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I use a torquemeister, doesn't matter if it's not often needed. The other part of this is installing and properly torqueing the nut. The tool makes it easy and accurate.
Edit - meant to add that at 60+ years age, I try to work smarter not harder. I'm in good shape but I don't have the same strength as I did in my 20's/30s. Hate to say it lol but it's the truth. _________________ My 1973 Standard Beetle Build SOLD
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eashc Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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Here's one way to keep the wheels from moving.
Works pretty good
https://youtu.be/aFgxKLIz1jo |
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H2OSB Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2013 Posts: 1282 Location: Modesto, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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I fourth or fifth the notion of using a Torque Meister. Best tool I've ever purchased.
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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TX-73 wrote: |
I use a torquemeister, doesn't matter if it's not often needed. The other part of this is installing and properly torquing the nut. The tool makes it easy and accurate. |
I can't agree with this more. I think I paid 90 bucks for mine from CB. It came with 12v and 6v flywheel gears as well.
For a long time I used breaker bars, BFHs, or other brute force methods. They work, but usually result in some damage to the nut, your shins, or hands. Then there is the problem of getting it back on there at the right torque..
With the torqumeister tool you can accurately torque the axel nut with a 3/8 ratchet and two fingers with the car still on a jack-stand. No brute force required. Actually it was so easy, it made me nervous that it wasn't tight. I was so used to standing on a cheater bar with my full weight. One of the best VW tools I've purchased. |
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boundstaffpress Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2013 Posts: 161 Location: Southeast Colorado
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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I used a 10 foot cheater on a 3/4 inch T-bar with an impact socket. I bent a 1/2 breakover bar before buying the 3/4 in T-bar _________________ Justin
Building a 73 Super Beetle with my kids. |
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megalania Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Left Rear Axle Nut Removal |
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I tried for weeks to get both mine off from my 73. In the end I got the grinder out and carefully ground the nut down. When there were only a couple millimeters left the nuts pinged and cracked from the pressure. They came off and the axle thread was fine. I just bought new nuts. |
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