Rare Unique and Oddball stock ignition distributors

[tasb]

Most of the time the numbers will only be found on the box. Some replacements have the three digit short number on the pull arm.
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1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018

1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc

1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse

[BarryL]

I was looking through the various charts of which parts to fit to this distributor Bosch 231 137 031.

When I came across this: Condensor: 02 007 - Note: If equipped w/AC use 02 069.

What would A/C do to change which condenser it needed?

[Glenn]

[glutamodo]

If you'd read throughmy charts you might have seen these notes:

Condensers from circa mid 1964 through 1970 on many distributors routed through a plastic plug in the bottom of the distributor. These distributors have a middle BOSCH number of 137 and 147. Several very similar condensers were used during this time. The main difference between them is the length of the wires, otherwise their fit and function should be the same. Consequently, the long-wire 02069 (1 237 330 245) has become the standard replacement for all of them. A list of these includes the:

1 237 330 069 (02007) from mid 64 thru 1965 Type 1/2
1 237 330 079 on 1966 type 3 1600TL
1 237 330 089 on the 1966-67 Type 1/2
1 237 330 096 on 1967 type 3s.
1 237 330 119 on 1968 type 1s
1 237 330 120 – unknown application, but this one is known to work in place of the above.
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[BarryL]

[tasb]

There are fewer and fewer NOS distributors with each passing day. Here is an example of one that has made it onto my workbench. The Bosch part # 0 231 139 006 is not one that I have any data on but the number system suggests that it is a service department replacement for the type III distributor ZV/PAU 4 R 6. Note the routing of the condenser wire which is different than the other early big cap distributors that routed the wire around the points cam. This one is date stamped May 1967 so a later production date with an early badge. Also take note of the fact that the cap clip retainers are left unpainted. The cast housing is covered in a very thin layer semi gloss black paint.

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1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018

1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc

1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse

[Glenn]

[tasb]

According to my documentation there is a 0 231 139 005 which is the service replacement for the ZV/PAU 4 R 5. In other words the 005 replaces the R 5 and the 006 replaces the R 6.
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1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018

1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc

1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse

[BarryL]

I'm baaaack...from previous pages 10, 11, and 15 regarding this NOS distributor Bosch 231 137 031.

Today with the stock 1500 engine warmed up, the stock 30pict1 carb vacuum line disconnected and plugged, and the distributor static timed to 0 degrees I strobe checked the timing using the vacuum pump to totally advance the carb at 3000rpm I got 25 degrees of total advance.

What should the total advance reading be and what would that make the static timing end up?

[tasb]

The VW # for that distributor is 315 905 205 B. That one is a service department replacement for the 113 905 205 K/ 131 905 205 for 1966-67 Beetle and Bus, as well as 311 905 205 G. They all use the 210 vacuum canister that delivers 25 degrees of advance so they are static timed at 7-8 degrees BTDC static. The result will be a total vacuum advance of no more than 32 degrees. 25+ 7= 32.
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1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018

1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc

1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse

[ozinbc]

nos distributor cam, # 383 under spring plate. ? application, or a universal fit.

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[mr. lang]

[tasb]

[Glenn]

The cam dictates the curve.

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[tasb]

The advance spring on the 010 cam Glenn shared above is covering the cam ID number it's 127.
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1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018

1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc

1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse

[veskovici]

Hi guys,

I come across this odd distributor. It has same flat cap as 383 vw distributor. I searched a bit and no reference to this dist model.
Id plate is very damaged but what I could read it is VE 4 then two circular digits and then 262 so VE 4 00 262. it has large bosch logo . Date code on it is 7F.
Maybe it is not even vw designated distributor?

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[BarryL]

I like all parts of it. The points look like some I gave Tasb but don't have themn now to compare. It's mechanical advance. I dig the timing arrow thing. What the heck is the 6 cylinder/4 cylinder option marks inside for: where #1 would be for that cam? How many lobes does it have currently?

[Glenn]

Not VW... maybe Goliath or Borgward.

This one is for a 1957 Goliath 2 cylinder. May parts are similar to VW.

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[veskovici]

[mr. lang]