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aeromech
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 Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:08 pm Post subject: Side steps equal? |
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I need a sliding door side step for this ‘71 bus I’m working on. The question is are some better than others? Are NOS ones available or should I just buy the cheapest I can find online? I hear they were a dealer option so that’s why I’m asking. TIA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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There's a few different styles, some have cast aluminum end brackets (most current repos), later OG VWOA versions were bent up square steel bar.
The cast ones snap off when you clip a curb and one end grinds on the raod all the way home, the bar version bends the sh*t out of the jack points, you decide what style of pain you want 
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TomWesty
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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| busdaddy wrote: |
There's a few different styles, some have cast aluminum end brackets (most current repos), later OG VWOA versions were bent up square steel bar.
The cast ones snap off when you clip a curb and one end grinds on the raod all the way home, the bar version bends the sh*t out of the jack points, you decide what style of pain you want |
I wouldn’t want to straighten out a jack point. Let the step be the mechanical fuse as it were....
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aeromech
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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Reading between the lines here. I’m guessing what you’re saying is that a side step is a bad idea?
The bus belongs to a Grandmother who wants to go camping with her grandkids. If you still think it’s a bad idea I’ll let her know that.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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| aeromech wrote: |
Reading between the lines here. I’m guessing what you’re saying is that a side step is a bad idea?
The bus belongs to a Grandmother who wants to go camping with her grandkids. If you still think it’s a bad idea I’ll let her know that. |
Compromise.
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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We always just brought along a little stool when the kids were short, handy for other things once at the campsite as well as reaching stuff in the upper bunk inside the bus.
Side steps sound like a good idea, but in practice they create new challenges sometimes and are more of a PITA than they are worth, I wouldn't want to go off pavement anywhere with one.
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aeromech
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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I appreciate your opinion. Thanks guys.
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obieoberstar
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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Years ago I purchased a Bus Boys repro aluminum side step. It works great and find it awkward getting into the cargo area without it. Can't imagine my bus without it.
That said, I have broken both cast aluminum jack point mount brackets being really stupid on 2 separate off-road occasions. Fortunately some friends who are good at TIG welding repaired them.
If this is going to be used for an older driver that will never see off road stupid scenarios I would say that the repro's will be fine. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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^^^ Put one on each side and call them rock sliders!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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I had one on my '72 and wanted another for my current '73 that was exactly the same as my earlier one. Found one in the classifieds last week for a good price that I wanted, but after inquiring, seller said he didn't want to ship. I think it was in California so you may be able to pick it up.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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| busdaddy wrote: |
There's a few different styles, some have cast aluminum end brackets (most current repos), later OG VWOA versions were bent up square steel bar.
The cast ones snap off when you clip a curb and one end grinds on the raod all the way home, the bar version bends the sh*t out of the jack points, you decide what style of pain you want |
I have a client with one. total pain in the ass to set up on the lift, and I 100% agree with busdaddy.
the other thing is they rattle without the spring to hold tension on them. they tend to collect shit and corrode into the jack points as well.
I find them to be a tripping hazard getting out of the bus. perhaps see if you can borrow one to see how much granny loves it.
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aeromech
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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perhaps see if you can borrow one to see how much granny loves it.
Don,
I have an old bent up one I can install and see what Cathie thinks. Good idea.
What you don’t know is I sent her a link to this thread and now I’m worried she might just fly out there and kick your ass for that granny comment 
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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What you don’t know is I sent her a link to this thread and now I’m worried she might just fly out there and kick your ass for that granny comment |
is she a cougar? I may like it 
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aeromech
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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| aeromech wrote: |
What you don’t know is I sent her a link to this thread and now I’m worried she might just fly out there and kick your ass for that granny comment |
is she a cougar? I may like it |
I’ve only spent about an hour in person with her over the last 3 months that I’ve had her bus. From that I’d just guess that you couldn’t stay up with her.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Side steps equal? |
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I'm sure she's nice, and I mean no offence (I'm sure you know this)
it would be awkward eating dinner, having Bea Arthur pounding on my door looking to kick my ass. I'd have a lot of explaining to do
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