(Bay pop top) Double door sunroof !

[veskovici]

coming on!

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Oval 1954
Barndoor1954
Doubledoorsunroof

[notchboy]

Come on man. Dont be like that. Show us the goods!
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[jtauxe]

[notchboy]

John do you have a build thread for that Quad door double cab?
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[alman72]

That bus is so cool! nice work you are doing!
I do have to ask, because the m plate would be so cool to see, why do you think it was removed? where did you look? I know (I thought I knew) that early ones were on the bulkhead behind the seat, and late ones were on the air ducts up behind the fuse box. Just making sure you have not overlooked it. Also, I believe you can send the vin to VW and get the birth certificate for what was original to your bus.

[Collie]

DD. Sunroof. Automatic.

This guy has my dream bus.....

[OrangeZA]

Hmmm…

No M-plate, 1974 VIN but 1973 body details (sliding door handle recess, fuel cap flap), Kombi VIN but fitted with so many options it’s practically a deluxe Microbus (sunroof, ventilation windows in the cab doors, padded dash, trip meter, clock, trim around the seat back panels, ventilation ducting to the passenger area, heater outlets in the rear cargo floor, etc, etc, etc)??

Top engine hatch only came on Type 4 engined models, which would be more evidence to suggest it would have originally left the factory with automatic transmisson.

[jtauxe]

[alman72]

is the 74 vin stamped into the bus body, or part of the upright motor tin that could have come from another bus?
Things sure get weird over yonder with uprights, padded dash, ect that we did not see in the USA. (in the years that we saw them)

[veskovici]

I know what you are saying but all this questions I asked my self.
Facts about this kombi are: vin is original to the body. place where it is stamped (upright engine tin) is not added or amended or altered in any way, there was no signs of hacking anywhere near engine bay area. I thoroughly examined if vin number is changed or any way altered or not original to the body and I am 100% sure it is original to the body.
Entire kombi was silverfish and resprayed with come kind of dark blue .I am talking inner sides of side panels , engine area, under the dash, behind fuel tank, inner roof, chassis . There was no original tube for clutch cable so I had to make one, ashtray shows automatic transmission shifting.
I didnt ordered birth certificate yet but very soon .
All upholstery originally was black vinyl.

You all can see pictures as found at beginning of this topic. Old guy was using it for driving bee hives around a country. I asked and searched for Mplate but no successes

BN4 installed and working
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Oval 1954
Barndoor1954
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[OrangeZA]

You have a beautiful bus veskovici and I really admire your efforts to bring it back to its former glory.

There is certainly something mysterious about it though! I wonder who would buy such a fancy, high spec bus when it was new?

Your BN4 is another odd 1973 model year detail on your bus. From the start of the 1974 model year, LHD models were fitted with the BA6 model instead, I guess a BN4 could have been retrofitted at some point. What does your front bumper deformation element’s side seams look like? Do they look like the T2s in the photo below, a lap joint spot welded together or do they look more like a flange similar to the one just above the deformation element? A 1973 model year T2 would have flanges at the sides.

Photo from Das Bundesarchiv.

[veskovici]

Does this paint prep pic helps?

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[OrangeZA]

Well it’s flat at the sides of the bumper deformation element so it doesn’t look like a ’73 model here.

The fuel filler flap really puzzles me though. Did it look as though it had seen any work around the fuel filler area? In the photo below, again from Das Bundesarchiv, you can see some very early 1974 models making their way along the production line, this photo was taken on the 23rd of August 1973.

I think 1974 also saw the return of the pin by the window to lock and unlock the doors from the inside, whereas ’73 models had the little locking lever above the door opening lever.

[notchboy]

[veskovici]

One more thing. I noticed hat factory wholes for the Volkswagen logo on the rear hatch are not matching to the original sign and not matching to the one (smaller) which is there now. I found original automatic logo and they are perfect fit. But i didnt put automatic logo as my bus is not automatic at the moment.
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[notchboy]

[OrangeZA]

[notchboy]

OrangeZA perfect, just the info I was hunting! Thanks for Phishin that out


Here is my 74's ash tray.

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[OrangeZA]

Thanks for posting the photo of your ’74’s ashtray Jason, the illustration matches my parent’s ’78 so must be for the later push button selector lever (also shown in your photo)

Veskovici’s ashtray shows the earlier style illustration, admittedly the ashtray and likewise the early style sliding doors, may not be original...

and here is a photo of the original selector handle, without the side mounted push button, from the 1973 sales brochure:

In the ’74 brochure, dated August 1973, the photo of the selector above has been doctored to include a push button.

Jason, is your 1974’s VIN earlier or later than veskovici’s, 234 2108 789 <- which is almost half way through the 1974 production run.

Veskovici, if only your bus could talk, I think it would have a very interesting story to tell!

[veskovici]

From what I know from PO it was originally ordered for hotel guests sightseeing tours in Split, Dalmatia-Croatia back then part of former Yugoslavia.
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Oval 1954
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