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Skim
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Joined: April 15, 2001
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Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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| I wish you luck in resolving this. It’s a shame. 50k views to this post in 4 days! |
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Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
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Who.Me? 
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Joined: July 14, 2014
Posts: 2211
Location: UK (South)
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:21 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Skim wrote: |
| oakman wrote: |
| joefriday wrote: |
| I wish you luck in resolving this. It’s a shame. 50k views to this post in 4 days! |
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Give it a few days. Someone will turn it in to a 100-page clickbait slideshow. 
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Andy
Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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ryans65
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Joined: February 16, 2016
Posts: 1263
Location: Yulee FL
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Just google "mecum fake 23 window bus" and it's all over the forums, not just VW related ones. |
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joefriday
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Joined: November 30, 2015
Posts: 179
Location: Richland WA
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:08 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Wow. If I owned a business with a problem like this I’d want to resolve it first thing Monday morning. Turn bad publicity into good pretty quickly. |
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nlorntson
Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004
Posts: 3783
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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YadnusBug
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Joined: February 07, 2013
Posts: 21
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:51 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| oakman wrote: |
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| I wish you luck in resolving this. It’s a shame. 50k views to this post in 4 days! Can that be? Amazing. I suspect most are wishing well, and learning something too. |
Ten hours later and it has doubled to 100k |
It's Charlie Wenzell all over again. Mecum gon learn today.  |
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KWZ
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Joined: July 11, 2004
Posts: 1341
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:27 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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It’s pretty bad when a family friend, who is an avid Packard collector, called my dad to ask if I had heard about the fake 23 window at mecum. This is all over collector car circles.
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srfndoc
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Joined: August 21, 2010
Posts: 3275
Location: SoCal
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:29 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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Based on how this case wen't down it doesn't look good for owner of this bus. Between the 'As Is' clause and the clause about not relying on the seller for any information, going after Mecum seems to be a dead end. I guess if you could prove VIN fraud you might be able to go after the seller but that may be difficult to prove they did the actual swap (vs. some other PO/shop that worked on it).
In the end, its buyer beware for anything purchased at auction. Also, have a lawyer review anything you sign before signing it.
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jiggymatt
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Joined: February 25, 2018
Posts: 3
Location: Wildomar, CA
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:09 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| CONGRATS! I picked up my first VW the same day at that auction! 1970 beetle. |
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Z
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Joined: June 15, 2003
Posts: 2517
Location: galveston, tx
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| CONGRATS! I picked up my first VW the same day at that auction! 1970 beetle. |
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OG Velvet
Samba Family Man
Joined: February 24, 2003
Posts: 2168
Location: Portland, OR
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| CONGRATS! I picked up my first VW the same day at that auction! 1970 beetle. |
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notchboy
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Joined: April 27, 2002
Posts: 22463
Location: Escondido CA
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:27 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| jiggymatt wrote: |
| CONGRATS! I picked up my first VW the same day at that auction! 1970 beetle. |
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
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AS350driver
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Joined: April 17, 2016
Posts: 1340
Location: Tucson
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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Mecum can only take so many “Pyrrhic Victories” like this without losing buyers. With every internet search and click, Mecum’s reputation takes a hit. I doubt Mecum bragged on their site about their court “win”. If you search Mecum and “shill bidders” it appears selling fake cars isn’t their only parlor trick, and word is getting out fast.
No two cases are alike. The fake Corvette case was in Illinois, this one is going to be in California. In a case where I’m a wronged consumer, I’d rather take my chances in California any day.
Mecum might not actually get named in this suit over the 23W bus. In the Corvette case, Mecum was the owner, as well as auctioneer. It will be interesting to see how nestbedding’s lawyer structures the case.
In my opinion, the people sitting on the hottest seats on the bus case are the owner, and the dealership that the bus went through. The dealership has a California dealer license to go after, and they have a body shop that probably did the work to the bus. I wonder how well treated and paid their employees are? Any former employees that might remember that Vin being punched into that frame? Who gave the order to do that? It will all come out in court. |
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Douglas Denlinger
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Joined: May 23, 2003
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Location: Arizona's version of the east coast
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:32 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=469295&highlight=barrett-jackson
This one sure got quite......at least it was a real 23 window that had fire damage, which I agree could have melted the VIN tag. Still fraud on faking the replacement VIN tag.
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nestbedding
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Posts: 85
Location: Oakland
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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67_SO42
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Posts: 668
Location: Oslo, Norway via Arizona
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:06 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Mecum IS going to be named in this suit and there is one giant difference that will set my case apart from the poor guy with the Vette: I am not going to divulge that but suffice to say they had prior knowledge at Mecums and chose to run the vehicle. |
Go get em! Interesting to follow.
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AS350driver
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Location: Tucson
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:14 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Mecum IS going to be named in this suit and there is one giant difference that will set my case apart from the poor guy with the Vette: I am not going to divulge that but suffice to say they had prior knowledge at Mecums and chose to run the vehicle. |
Go go go then!! I like the sound of that. I’m sure *it will all come out in court*. I’m presuming the owner and dealership will be named as well?
You’re doing everyone that loves these buses a service. |
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swharris
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Joined: September 10, 2010
Posts: 502
Location: N. Orange County
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:19 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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to compare vin # from my jan 15 59 23 window # 429438
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The bus fraudsters thank you for your picture! |
This is just a silly comment. I could go to any OCTO show and peek in the open engine compartment of just about any bus, chat the owner up about how original and cool the motor set up is, ask if he minds and snap a pic or two for "my" restoration and then take one of the VIN. |
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swharris
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swharris
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Location: N. Orange County
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| CONGRATS! I picked up my first VW the same day at that auction! 1970 beetle. |
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are completely safe ;-P Congrats on the new ride despite the bumpers and blinkers  ) Seriously though, enjoy the car. |
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