Author |
Message |
menotti Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2017 Posts: 65 Location: Encinitas, CA
|
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:51 pm Post subject: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Searched around and couldn't find a definitive answer. Say my overflow tank when cold is quite low, like at the minimum or below minimum but the expansion tank is topped off.
Should I be adding coolant to the overflow so it goes to about midway when cold?
Before I owned the Vanagon I rented one and the person renting it to me advised to fill the overflow tank if it looked too low while cold. But haven't seen that advice elsewhere.
Thoughts? Thanks! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
|
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Yes. But you'll want to monitor the frequency in which you're having to fill it. Since the it's a mostly closed system the coolant level shouldn't be varying much if everything is in working order. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
0to60in6min Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2006 Posts: 3416 Location: OR & CA (Oregon/California)
|
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
make sure that the main tank is full to the brim... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9810 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
|
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
If you are referring to the tank behind the license plate then yes, it should be kept about half full. As I recall there is a MIN and MAX mark on there (faintly).
If it repeatedly needs topping up then you will want to know where is it going.
Possibilities include:
You have a head gasket issue that is sending coolant into the engine and out the exhaust
You have a leak
You have air in the system that is gradually self-bleeding
It is puking coolant when you are not looking |
|
Back to top |
|
|
menotti Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2017 Posts: 65 Location: Encinitas, CA
|
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Thanks folks, yes was referring to the overflow tank behind the license plate.
Expansion/pressurized tank is full when the engine is cold.
After getting the van back from service, mechanic told me he topped off all fluids but the overflow is basically at the min line. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Eric_Taylor Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2011 Posts: 291 Location: Bend, Oregon
|
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Yep if everything is functioning correctly the coolant system should draw necessary extra coolant from the overflow tank, therefore you fill it there.
If it's not drawing it over, the first place to check is the cap, which seem to fail with a decent frequency. If the cap works properly, then the pressure of the system should create suction which will draw over fluid from the overflow. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6558 Location: Westfalia, Earth
|
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Coolant does expand a little when getting hot, too. If I fill to the Max line when cold, it gets to be too high above the Max mark when hot.
At least in my system, which is absolutely bled of air, filling it to the dead-center between Min and Mad is ideal, when hot it's barely under or right at the Max mark. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
— Colin Chapman |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Nickel_Nackel Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2018 Posts: 187 Location: Bellingahm WA
|
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Quote: |
You have a head gasket issue that is sending coolant into the engine and out the exhaust |
are their other symptoms that go along with this issue? like over heating or puddles of coolant in the exhaust?
i topped off my coolant levels twice this last couple days and wondering if this is the issue.
thanks _________________ 1985 1.9L Potato |
|
Back to top |
|
|
WestyWanter Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2017 Posts: 459 Location: San Diego
|
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Search function!
But a sweet smell coming from the exhaust, seeing physical leaks coming from the motor, milky looking oil, sometimes exhaust.
Use the search function to find out how you can diagnose a HG leak.
Expect around 2,000$+ to have a shop do it |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
|
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Get, or ask your shop to use: https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combust...stion+leak
<fingers crossed>
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
|
Back to top |
|
|
WestyWanter Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2017 Posts: 459 Location: San Diego
|
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
Autozone will let you rent a block tester for free, at least my local store does, I'd check that! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50348
|
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Should I be adding coolant to overflow tank directly? |
|
|
All the Vanagons I have owned seem to like to have the level in the refill tank at the minimum level when cold. Seems if I fill it higher it just gets blown out. I will fill it above the minimum when I have just bled the cooling system and know it will still take a bit more, otherwise I consider the minimum to be just fine. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|