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tanhis Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Rauma Finland
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:58 am Post subject: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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So the problem is like this.
ABS / ESM lights are on in the dash. Fault lights started to come on once in a while and then more frequently until fulltime as soon as you start the car.
So I started to think that maybe this is just a faulty abs wheel sensor.
I took the car to a garage for timing belt change and asked them to look for the ABS fault at the same time. But fault codes showed fault in the steering angle sensor.
I changed the steering angle sensor to the aftermarket part.
Original 1 j0 959 654E
Aftermarket marked to be suitable replacement for
OEN 1J0959654AG — AUDI
OEN 1J0959654AG — SEAT
OEN 1J0959654AG — SKODA
OEN 1J0959654AC — VW
OEN 1J0959654AG — VW
OEN 1J0959654AP — VW
OEN 1J0 959 654 BK — VW
This was assured to me that this is the correct sensor but now I have started to doubt this.
After I changed the angle sensor and reset the fault codes. The fault was still there.
Next the internet wisards tought that the fault was not originally in the angle sensor but in the ABS pump unit and that would need to be replaced / send for specialist to be fixed.
So my question now is that should I now start the dismantle the ABS pump unit or might the fault be somewhere else.
I also started to thing that might the fault be in the ABS central unit under the rear seat? or something else.
And as a sidenote all of these faults started to appear after the rear brake circuit lost its pressure bacource of a leaking brake hose. But the car worked fine months after this event.
Balow is a full list of faults codes from the car.
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Chassis Type: 1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-018-AQY.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 018 N
Component: 2,0l R4/2V MOTR HS V03
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 48437
VCID: 2D51E95AE799792E0A-4AE8
4 Faults Found:
16795 - Secondary Air Injection System
P0411 - 35-10 - Incorrect Flow Detected - Intermittent
16806 - Main Catalyst; Bank 1
P0422 - 35-10 - Efficiency Below Threshold - Intermittent
18055 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus
P1647 - 35-00 -
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0100
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
Part No: 1J0 907 379 S
Component: ESP 20 CAN V010
Coding: 00209
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 4189A5EA4B018D4EDE-4B00
4 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-00 - -
01130 - ABS Operation
27-00 - Implausible Signal
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
62-00 - No or Incorrect Adjustment
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
49-00 - No Communications
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1J0-909-60x-VW3.lbl
Part No: 1J0 909 609
Component: D AIRBAG VW3 SG 0002
Coding: 00068
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 6CD7245E1C03B0265D-4B1A
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1C0-919-xx0.lbl
Part No: 1C0 919 861 C
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V23
Coding: 00142
Shop #: WSC 41092
VCID: 29591D4AD371650EE6-4AE8
Subsystem 1 - Part No: Ident
Component: Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0W7242140
Ident.-Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0W7242140
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1J0 959 799 AH
Component: 5Y Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
Coding: 00257
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 04076CFE14935866B5-4B1A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1J2959802C
Component: 5Y Tőrsteuerger. FS0001r
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J2959801D
Component: 5Y Tőrsteuerger. BF0001r
4 Faults Found:
01483 - Control Circuit for Rear Lid Remote Unlocking
25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
00953 - Interior Light Time limit
25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4)
35-00 - -
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5)
35-00 - -
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Address 01: DTCs cleared
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Address 03: DTCs cleared
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Address 15: DTCs cleared
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Address 17: DTCs cleared
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Address 25: DTCs cleared
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Address 46: DTCs cleared |
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:28 am Post subject: Re: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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Your's is right in that sweet spot for ABS module brain failures. Sending the control part of the ABS module in for repair would be one of my first things to do, and you can still drive it if needed. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12861 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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ps2375 wrote: |
Your's is right in that sweet spot for ABS module brain failures. Sending the control part of the ABS module in for repair would be one of my first things to do, and you can still drive it if needed. |
With the exception that once you get the damned thing out of the car, you won't want to reassemble it without putting the rebuilt or used module on it first. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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ps2375 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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I was always able to get the module/solenoid assy off the valve body w/o having to remove the whole assy from car. I don't remember if I did ant NB's, those might be located in a less desirable location. |
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tanhis Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Rauma Finland
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:09 am Post subject: Re: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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ps2375 wrote: |
Your's is right in that sweet spot for ABS module brain failures. Sending the control part of the ABS module in for repair would be one of my first things to do, and you can still drive it if needed. |
Yes the car is still drivable and works without ABS but you can not pass the annual motor vehicle inspection without ABS and that is mandatory around here. _________________ -58 Typ2 ambulance
-62 Typ 34
-65 Typ 34
-73 411 variant all metal custom
-69 typ 2, 9 seater
-89 vanagon camper conversion matkaaja
-08 3.0tdi phaeton |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12861 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:04 am Post subject: Re: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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ps2375 wrote: |
I was always able to get the module/solenoid assy off the valve body w/o having to remove the whole assy from car. I don't remember if I did ant NB's, those might be located in a less desirable location. |
It's backwards under the firewall above the steering rack. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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tanhis Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Rauma Finland
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:54 am Post subject: Re: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
ps2375 wrote: |
I was always able to get the module/solenoid assy off the valve body w/o having to remove the whole assy from car. I don't remember if I did ant NB's, those might be located in a less desirable location. |
It's backwards under the firewall above the steering rack. |
Yep not possible without removal of the whole unit. _________________ -58 Typ2 ambulance
-62 Typ 34
-65 Typ 34
-73 411 variant all metal custom
-69 typ 2, 9 seater
-89 vanagon camper conversion matkaaja
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ps2375 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:12 am Post subject: Re: 99' new beetle ABS/ESP problem |
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tanhis wrote: |
TDCTDI wrote: |
ps2375 wrote: |
I was always able to get the module/solenoid assy off the valve body w/o having to remove the whole assy from car. I don't remember if I did ant NB's, those might be located in a less desirable location. |
It's backwards under the firewall above the steering rack. |
Yep not possible without removal of the whole unit. |
That really sucks, glad I only had to do that on the B5 (Passat/A4) platforms. |
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