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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I´ve got my certificate and as options is mention M 018 (post on the subject). I´m really confuse because I had read a lots and it´s not clear for me what is that.

I know for sure that was for the Swedish market, and in argentina we receive from everywhere.

But was an additional light ? different kind of glass for the back lights ? glass or plastic ? hella ?

I´ll appreciate your kindly help.

In my certificate is mention 7 extras/options but i´m stopped just in this.

Best regards to all.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

When was your car produced and is it Argentinean market, or brought in from another country (gray market)?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

I've seen it on a couple b.c. for a 55 bug that would have egg taillights. USA market late 54 to mid 55
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

My June 1954 was imported into San Francisco and has that same option. I don't know what it means but I'm also curious.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

Most of these M code items indicate equipment that was installed on export cars. Some of these items probably came on the car whether it was ordered that way or not. Once again, this shows that the overrider bumpers were earlier equipment than some people think. I'm also assuming that "oversize reflector" is M code-speak for the eggshell taillights.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

My BC for my vert says M018 cannot be identified.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

My UK car, June '55, has this option also. The rear heart tail lights are original to the car and look exactly the same as all the other heart lights I've ever seen, so not sure what it specifies.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

Kindly find my BC. Was produced to the argentinian market, but with the optional M 018 for sweden market.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

Blue Baron wrote:
Once again, this shows that the overrider bumpers were earlier equipment than some people think.


Yes. From time to time I've read that the overriders started in 1955 but there's clear proof that they were used at least as early as mid-1954.

This Consumers Report magazine is dated October 1954 but typically they were printed a month ahead of the cover date, and of course the test drives would have been done prior to that.

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The article included this comment:

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Most Volkswagens being delivered in this country are equipped with bumper extensions. These are a $30 extra not included in the list price but CU considers them desirable on the VW.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

About the subject

"M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light"

I found this adds, and both of them said that is the M 018. But i think that this is the correct one:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/6432057.jpg

The below picture is mentioned that is M 018 but is wrong, i think...

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/5777326.jpg

Anyway, I need to clarify it.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

The M018 is probably the dark diffuser behind the glas, it was put there because some countries thought the original lens gave too bright light.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

bustariel wrote:
About the subject

"M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light"

I found this adds, and both of them said that is the M 018. But i think that this is the correct one:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/6432057.jpg

The below picture is mentioned that is M 018 but is wrong, i think...

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/5777326.jpg

Anyway, I need to clarify it.

Regards


You are right, M018 is the so called "Sweden" leses
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

This was my old theory

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I was thinking that there are a couple of versions of the same size lights out there.

M018 for 54-55 would be the egg light (replacing heart assy)

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M018 for 55-57 would be the "chevron" reflector for the snowflake housing. (replacing "snowflake" lens)

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M018 for swedish market, lens on right (also replacing "snowflake" lens)

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The reflector design looks very similar in both the egg and the nordic lenses and both are made of plastic. Coincidence??

Here are a few threads where it came up before.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=229811&highlight=chevron

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123658&highlight=chevron

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=289161&highlight=chevron

This is my opinion, but sure make sense for the original semaphore cars with eggs and the existence of the chevron lens for the later ovals


Swedish market also required 2 reflectors on the rear bumper as your pic above shows.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

Not only Sweden. Portugal as well had them.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

Thanks to all of you guys. After many searching and questions, finally I got it as below.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/6432057.jpg

So is complete ! Just remaining my other post:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=687175&highlight=

Another big question

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

I've never seen bullets in South America. We have plenty of cars from Argentina in Brazil. I know more than hundreds came from there, and all are semaphores cars. All cars delivered to other countries besides Brazil are Euro spec cars, only Brazil are CKD.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

Are they plastic not glass? I got a pair and its plastic!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: M 018 Larger Reflector in Brake Light Reply with quote

No, Cozy72, the glass lenses in your picture are for the taillights, not for the brake lights. The brake lights were on top of the tail-light assembly for that design, and were heart shaped.

IMO AlteWagen has it right. The chevron and alternate Swedish larger reflector designs in the glass lenses pictured above are M018 AFAIK.

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