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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

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Does that look like a French period license plate? has what looks like a triple-A badge on top. cool combo, French registered, US insured ?
Interesting detail to note: Back in the day TRUCKs that had a loaded (heavy) trailer in tow had to carry a backlighted orange triangle on top of the truck's roof. look at that Kombi !
Either it was registered as a commercial vehicle (truck/van) or the weight of the Airstream dictated the extra sign.

extra cool pic anyways.


no way the barndoor would have pulled any airstream. A 1949 18 foot airstream weighed over 2000 pounds and had tongue weight of over 250 pounds. And they got bigger from there... There were very few cars in europe that would have towed that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

yes, but I wouldn't think that either of that loads would put a structural problem for the BD. 2000pds trailer weight is 900kg approx and 250 tounge weight 120kgs or so. I know it's on the utmost rear of the bus, but the early bus has 750kg (cargo) load capacity or even more. I am sure it would have pulled uphill in first even with a 25 horse. not talking about the speed though Smile

But you are probably right though, that the Airstream was towed by another, stronger car, that's not in the pic.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

very nice, converted panel. whats up with the American iron in the street. 53Pontiac, 52 Buick and 53 Chevy. all GM lane.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

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Backnang must have been a hopping place back in the day? is this a 51?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

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Photo is 1953 International Trailer Rally in Copenhagen. Barndoor Kombi. Wally byam is standing by Airstream.


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Here is a photo I posted back in 2015 of what appears to be the same bus and trailer??
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

Wow, that is freaky - It definitely looks like the same pair
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

way cool Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

that bus has the same little emblem thing above the front bumper and the triangle sign on the roof

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

as mentioned before the triangle on top was used in ( at least part of) Europe for commercial vehicles with heavy trailers in tow. it had to be backlighted/shaded or upright/folded depending if a trailer was towed. You wouldn't have needed it if you had a BD Kombi with a smaller camping trailer in tow.
This BD must have had to use it either/and/or because it was a commercial vehicle, great total length or total registered load capacity over 3.5 (metric) tons (3500kg approx 7800pds).
imagine that rig goin up steep winding roads in the Schwarzwald, Switzerland or Austria...reminds me of the 1953 Lucille Ball/Desi Arnaz movie 'the long long trailer'... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

can anybody shed light on the license plates origin ? not French and I doubt British ? not German not Austrian not Italian. Dutch ? Portuguese?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

it seems that Waly Byam was THE founder of Airstream trailers and did plenty of around the globe camping with lots of different tow cars. He certainly was a brave man. considering the 30 German Pferdestärken in that oval Vert. Smile
Interesting that it has US specs blinkers but German export license plates.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

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it seems that Waly Byam was THE founder of Airstream trailers and did plenty of around the globe camping with lots of different tow cars. He certainly was a brave man. considering the 30 German Pferdestärken in that oval Vert. Smile
Interesting that it has US specs blinkers but German export license plates.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

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wow, way to make me a liar Smile

all the weights i ever saw on the airstreams were over 2000 pounds dry weight. and over 250 pound tongue weight.

i can't imagine that was ever legal in any country with laws.

theoretically, as long as the trailer is not heavier than the tow vehicle there is a possibility of if being legal, but i do not think these numbers match up here.

and 25 horses.... i have towed tons (literally) with a 40 horse but i know that was illegal.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

The badge above the front number plate is an AAA license plate topper. Odd that the bus does not have a right side mirror. Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

djfordmanjack wrote:
it seems that Waly Byam was THE founder of Airstream trailers and did plenty of around the globe camping with lots of different tow cars. He certainly was a brave man. considering the 30 German Pferdestärken in that oval Vert. Smile
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this has to be his 1955 trip. For 56 he had a larger gold color Airstream. Apparently the 1955 16 foot Airstream "BUBBLE" weighed only 1875 pounds dry. Still a lot of weight for a 30 or 36 horse motor.

more searching turned up this:

http://vintageairstream.com/photo-archives/1955-bubble-16/1955-bubble-16-x251/

#x251 was the only Airstream constructed with a magnesium chassis. Thus being light enough to be pulled by a VW beetle and bus.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos Reply with quote

I posted this last year. It was from an epic Mexican caravan that had hundreds of camp trailers and one barndoor westfalia. Hosted by the late great Wally Byam. There are plenty of pictures of him and his airstream in the link below.

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I don't know if anyone else has found this picture on the internet yet, but there is a barndoor westy in this photo:
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another:
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this photo is more well known:
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