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jmhigh4471
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 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:45 am Post subject: Early motor ID |
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| Bought an old, rough dune buggy to save the engine trans. The engine number is 235 Z 612. It is complete with small dome-top VW air cleaner and pulley for use with a hand crank. Has a PICT 28 carb. Wont turn over, but I bet it would if valves, lifters lubed up. Trans may be early also, still shifts easy. About 1950??? |
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sled
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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post a picture.
if the engine number does in fact have a letter in the sequence, then it is not an original number.
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lovethatconvertible
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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sled
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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May of 1958 if that number is factory stamped.
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jmhigh4471
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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| Thank you for your help. The chassis number is 2045920. A reference chart on Samba would indicate the chassis is from August, 1950. The "Z" symbol between the engine number is about 50% larger than the numbers. They do appear to be factory. |
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sled
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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no, that chassis number is August of 1958.
if there is a letter on the engine, then it is not an original stamping.
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56samba
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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It has an earlier lower pulley and a Bus crank nut - that is cool.
Pulley looks trashed though |
Everett, what's the difference between a bus or bug crank nut?
I thought there were only differences over the years...
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lovethatconvertible
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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If he could clean up that # area, we could get a better more focused pic.
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jmhigh4471
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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| Thanks for your help. I'll consider it a 1958 model. Still think its early enough to see if the engine can be freed up, and the transaxle seems to be ok. |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Early motor ID |
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| 56samba wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
It has an earlier lower pulley and a Bus crank nut - that is cool.
Pulley looks trashed though |
Everett, what's the difference between a bus or bug crank nut?
I thought there were only differences over the years...
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What I said might have been confusing - I said Bus because it looked like a mid-50s engine so I figured it might have been in a Bus at some point since only Buses had crank nuts by that time.
Here's a thread with some pics of different nuts, I think the 25hp is a little different if you look really closely:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177732
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