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empiracer Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2002 Posts: 1098 Location: Issaquah / Seattle, Wa.
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: 1960 sunvisor - 1 or 2? |
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So i've heard 1960 should be equipped with only 1 visor, Im curious of the consensus of the Samba group.
I do remember in a junk yard many years ago saving what I would call a chrome delete plug from passengers side rear view mirror in a early beetle that had only one visor. |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26315 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, 1960 was the last year for no passenger visor, and the first year for the padded style visors. That delete plug was only used on Deluxe models in 1960, IIRC.
a page from the 1960 Owner's Manual:
And read the 1960 and 61 entries from VW's "what year is it?" brochure from the late 60s:
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vw57drvr Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2005 Posts: 1705 Location: Rome, Ga
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Unless it is a convertible. They have two visors. _________________ 60 Rock Grey Vert |
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 2685 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:59 am Post subject: |
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The other point about the 1960 visor is that it was a one year only part. It is a horizontal ribbed style. I don't think it is being reproduced at this time. The reproduction visors fit the 1960 but they are not quite correct in matching the original pattern. _________________ 1960 beetle
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Murdock00 Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2013 Posts: 72 Location: Georgia, USA
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Indeed, 1960 has only one visor from the factory, as stated above. My 1960 came with one visor and a chrome plug on the passenger side and it is a hardtop. |
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vwsonmybrain Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2007 Posts: 702 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Murdock00 wrote: |
Indeed, 1960 has only one visor from the factory, as stated above. My 1960 came with one visor and a chrome plug on the passenger side and it is a hardtop. |
Unless it's documented that they only left the factory with one and passenger visors were only a dealer add-on, I don't think you can definitively say that all 1960 Beetles came with only 1 visor. My hardtop was built in October '59 and has both original, 'ribbed' style visors. |
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empiracer Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2002 Posts: 1098 Location: Issaquah / Seattle, Wa.
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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vwsonmybrain wrote: |
Murdock00 wrote: |
Indeed, 1960 has only one visor from the factory, as stated above. My 1960 came with one visor and a chrome plug on the passenger side and it is a hardtop. |
Unless it's documented that they only left the factory with one and passenger visors were only a dealer add-on, I don't think you can definitively say that all 1960 Beetles came with only 1 visor. My hardtop was built in October '59 and has both original, 'ribbed' style visors. |
The owners manual is good evidence, in another post i saw someone mentioning they have the original invoice stating extra visor. I'm leaning towards the passengers side visor would be a dealer add-on such as the side view mirrors and radio/antenna |
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empiracer Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2002 Posts: 1098 Location: Issaquah / Seattle, Wa.
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Anyone have an extra chrome plug they would wanna kick down ?? PM me !! |
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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My Feb. 1960 pretty much original bug had 2 visors(ribbed 1960 only style.). They certainly may well have been a dealer installed option. It would be easily and quickly done. I suspect it would have been a very popular and desirable option. I recall owning a single visor 1959 bug and receiving a lot of complaints from my passenger regarding the lack of a visor. _________________ 1960 beetle
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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There's VW at it again- the cheap way to making the same parts fit RHD or LHD cars. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26315 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Actually, that's not correct about LHD and RHD - the angle of the glass is different between the two - and they had different part numbers.
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eagle5127 Samba Member
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Andy, you are an incredible wealth of knowledge and so unselfish ..supererogatory ! |
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Murdock00 Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2013 Posts: 72 Location: Georgia, USA
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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vwsonmybrain wrote: |
Murdock00 wrote: |
Indeed, 1960 has only one visor from the factory, as stated above. My 1960 came with one visor and a chrome plug on the passenger side and it is a hardtop. |
Unless it's documented that they only left the factory with one and passenger visors were only a dealer add-on, I don't think you can definitively say that all 1960 Beetles came with only 1 visor. My hardtop was built in October '59 and has both original, 'ribbed' style visors. |
As stated user manuals are good evidence, and my car is very much original. I have the paper work from 1960 for it. The car was never touched as for a rebuild until I took it apart and at that time it had one visor for the driver and a chrome plug for the passenger side. My car was also sold March 15th 1960. I kept the original visor but I did not put it in the car since the vinyl is brittle and the insides a fine powder and running out of it xP |
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sonoma_vw Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2013 Posts: 464 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:56 am Post subject: Re: 1960 sunvisor - 1 or 2? |
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What are the passenger side chrome plugs mentioned? There’s only a single mount in the center of the window. |
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 sunvisor - 1 or 2? |
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sonoma_vw wrote: |
What are the passenger side chrome plugs mentioned? There’s only a single mount in the center of the window. |
Im guessing, maybe a plug to fill the bore in the mirror mount that the missing passenger side visor rod slips into?
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sonoma_vw Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2013 Posts: 464 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 sunvisor - 1 or 2? |
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Interesting they had passenger-ready mount even though the plugs were in. Does that mean passenger visors were an option? Otherwise would have been an earlier design. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 sunvisor - 1 or 2? |
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Simply a dealer-purchased addition part- whether with the car sale or later. Just a dealer add on slapped on the sticker. I hunching around $6? _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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Karly Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2002 Posts: 641 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:44 am Post subject: Re: 1960 sunvisor - 1 or 2? |
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My feb 1960 beetle also has 2 sun visors made with the same one year ribbed 1960 style vinyl. Pondering if possibly all Australian beetles from 1960 on had 2 sun visors? _________________ 1960 Beetle ''Heidi" daily driver
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:13 am Post subject: Re: 1960 sunvisor - 1 or 2? |
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That would be neat to learn. You folks got a few super-hot and always super-dusty additions to your cars.
Now, how to track down all the remaining original '60 beetles in Australia... _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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