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markcm2 Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2015 Posts: 505 Location: Bellingham, Washington
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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57 Zwitter? wrote: |
I tried the one from Euro kampers and it was terrible, plus they raised the price from date I ordered (went on Backorder) it until I received it! Raised seat about 2.5 inches, couldn't move seat back and forth after installing. Removed it and got one from CMC in the UK. $243 delivered to USA and it is awesome! Complete new base with either a lock box or just open box. |
More information please, can you provide a link?
I have one of the normal North American units and I don't like how high it is. |
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wildenbeast Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2008 Posts: 680 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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For '97 and later vans, you can buy a lowered seat base to compensate for the swivel height. The problem I see is that the new base does not include the connector to install the rear facing seat:
https://www.swivel-seats.com/vw-t4/vw-t4-single-base-box.html _________________ - Bill, '93 Eurovan Syncro Weekender (2.5 manual ACU) |
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markcm2 Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2015 Posts: 505 Location: Bellingham, Washington
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57 Zwitter? Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 418 Location: Boston, Mass.
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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I got the one without the lockbox. It looks different than the above one. Mine is a square box. Swivels easily, locks into position facing forwards or backwards. No provision for attaching bracket for rear facing seat, but mine was formerly a GLS anyway so it didn't matter. Google CMC UK |
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57 Zwitter? Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 418 Location: Boston, Mass.
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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Chesire Motor Caravans = CMC |
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pwcgecko Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2017 Posts: 47
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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I purchased the CMC seat base without the lockbox from the UK and installed it the drivers side. I already had the eurocamper swivel adapter on the passenger side which raised the seat 1.5 inches. The CMC base shipped quickly and arrived in about 4 days. Expensive but worth it. I have the 2002 weekender with an upgraded battery so I had to move the aux battery to the passenger side. Luckily everything fit perfectly without any fitting issues. I did have to re-wire to reach to the other side, but it went as smooth as I can expect.
Thanks again samba forum for the wonderful info:
Picture of moving the battery to the passenger side and original driver side base removed.
Both seats now installed with swivel base and adapter. Notice the height difference on the passenger side.
_________________ 2002 Eurovan Weekender in SoCal |
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pinetreeporsche Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2009 Posts: 752 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Xtremjeepn"]
I just got a '97 mini-Winnie. and my seats (swivel, both) don't have those nice plastic surrounds incl with the little pocket-recess. Anyone know if those units came on the Winnebago-- and how to get one or two?
And maybe a bit out of place here, but it's a fact that the EV-Winnie cannot be
started and run with the pass. front seat swiveled (although I'd think it would be good protection in a head-on crash). Can't even move the van into new shade areas at a campground without spinning it to the front. So: has anyone disabled or bypassed this lock out? |
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murraybot Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2018 Posts: 7 Location: CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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@pwcgecko
It looks like you have the swivel seat adapter with the jump seat base intact.
Was there any issues with installing the swivel adapter with the rear facing seat bracket? Eurocampers says that the rear facing seat bracket must be removed.
I would love to have swivel seats but want the ability to install the rear facing seats as well. |
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pwcgecko Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2017 Posts: 47
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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murraybot wrote: |
@pwcgecko
It looks like you have the swivel seat adapter with the jump seat base intact.
Was there any issues with installing the swivel adapter with the rear facing seat bracket? Eurocampers says that the rear facing seat bracket must be removed.
I would love to have swivel seats but want the ability to install the rear facing seats as well. |
The Jumper seat on the passenger side engages without any issues. _________________ 2002 Eurovan Weekender in SoCal |
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Joshwa Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2015 Posts: 810 Location: North Seattle WA
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SPL Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2017 Posts: 7 Location: IL
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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I have a 2002 EuroVan Weekender and I also went with the CMC seat base with swivel. I went with the safe option. It took me about 1.5 hours total to install it and I am very happy with the result. Good communication from CMC and no issues at all with shipping. I would recommend it.
I may also do something for the driver side, but I need to think more about the battery issue.
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jmciii Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2019 Posts: 61 Location: KY
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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My 2002 MV has the passenger seat already implemented which is great. (I have no clue which part was sourced from where.)
I would like to take on the driver side too. But I'm not excited about the complexity of the aux battery and the potential increase in seat height--all of the things outlined in this thread. This mod strikes me as too much effort for too little return but this conversation is helping me navigate that question. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this. _________________ -John
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12114 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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Does anyone have experience with the FASP seat swivel?
http://www.rainbow-conversions.co.uk/swivels/fasp-...-side.html _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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SplitBusVanatic Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2005 Posts: 338 Location: Co. Mayo. Ireland
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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Yes. I have pair of fasp swivels in my caravelle.
I also have the original vw swivel seats in the middle row.
The fasps are excellent, really really good solid swivels.
In my experience, Second only to the gold standard original vw items.
Fasps raise the seat height by about 30mm. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12114 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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Thanks for the update. I'll look into importing a set. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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SplitBusVanatic Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2005 Posts: 338 Location: Co. Mayo. Ireland
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12114 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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Ok, new direction. A buddy just gave me a swivel he cut out of his T3 Syncro Joker, so I'm attempting to install it into my T4 passenger pedestal. Has anyone done this before? I want to weld it in as low as possible to reduce the increase in height.
_________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12114 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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In case you were wondering, yes it can be done. Late model EVs have different slider mechanisms than the early versions or the T3*, so I had to weld four captive nuts onto the bottom of the swivel in order to bolt the seat down. Other than that, it was just trimming the base to fit, and welding. We're that much closer to converting the van to a full camper.
*Sheesh, I nearly forgot to mention that the T3 sliders need to be cut out of the swivel. Each of them is welded and spot-welded into place. There are thirteen spot welds per each, and they're a pain royale to remove. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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SplitBusVanatic Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2005 Posts: 338 Location: Co. Mayo. Ireland
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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That’s a good result.
Not worth it in Europe though.
As swivels for EuroVan are plentiful here.
(Albeit expensive new).
Still you are in it for Only your time and perseverance.
In itself a satisfying payoff. |
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EuroVanNewbie Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2020 Posts: 3 Location: MA
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Swiveling front seats for EuroVan Weekender? |
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Good Morning All. I appreciate all of the info I have found on this site. You all are amazing.
I was trying just now to purchase one of these swivel bases from CMC. There does not seem to be active links on their page to purchase. Has anyone bought onerecently? I reached out to them and will let you know if they are still being sold. |
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