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nlorntson
Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004
Posts: 3783
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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 Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Clara wrote: |
I think the heater log in the '59 deluxe' had been chopped out, and later replaced.
The underside pic with the heater tube cap implies it was originally a passenger bus, as do the hooks for the armrests. |
Agree.
And the heater wrap on the cow horn half is the pre 63 style as well. So at least this chunk of the bus is earlier and could be 59. |
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nlorntson
Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004
Posts: 3783
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:42 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| nestbedding wrote: |
| ...except for a cop from the TARP program in LA who is going to see it next week, not a lot of empathy so far. |
What did the cops have to say? |
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campingbox 
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Joined: November 14, 2000
Posts: 10196
Location: Petaluma, CA
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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Has the birth certificate been authenticated for that vin number?
I know the museum can be helpful in situations like this. I have a friend who had a similar problem and for 40 Euro he had all of the details/options confirmed by email from the museum within 4 hours.
Seems like a good place to start, eh? |
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Nalu33
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Joined: February 05, 2012
Posts: 64
Location: Los Angeles
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:41 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| BeaterBarndoor wrote: |
It’s horrible to see such a situation with this much money involved especially. Hopefully the outcome is positive for the buyer.
My one question from early on in this thread, am I the only one who sees 2 different ‘4s’ on the obvious original VIN number below? They all look the same for the faked bus, different sequence of course. It’s just my guess that maybe those who stamped the numbers at the factory just had mix match stamps?
I didn’t see any mention on this in the reading, unless I looked over it.
Could be a real 59 vin but holy moly on the rest of the bus. Sad.
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Something else a little funny: the hole for the screw that holds the metal VIN
tag looks to me like it has never had a self tapping screw in it. Like it never even had a tag mounted- ever. That looks like a fresh hole, maybe punched,
not drilled.
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The engine tag goes there under gas tank, not the vin stamp. The vin stamp is not factory correct gorvthst soot, wrong |
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oakman
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Joined: February 05, 2014
Posts: 1715
Location: Edge of the Desert, Ca
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:59 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Nalu33 wrote: |
The engine tag goes there under gas tank, not the vin stamp. The vin stamp is not factory correct gorvthst soot, wrong |
Early buses had the vin stamped beneath the tag that is missing on this bus.
Here's some info on vin tag locations:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/id.php
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Nalu33
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Joined: February 05, 2012
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Location: Los Angeles
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:33 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| lenny copp wrote: |
| Still learning lol |
As a respected and ethical restoration shop owner(IMO), I think your perspective is quite valuable in this discussion. Would you be willing to give your opinion on the situation? Have you ever had someone bring a bus/car to you that was obviously not originally from the factory as it was being presented or what they asked you to "create"?
What do you see as the resto shop/s responsibility in a situation like this?
Thanks for your insight. |
Yes Lenny please do add your thoughts, experiences and comments... We’d love to hear 👂 |
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lonotch
Samba Padrino
Joined: August 28, 2004
Posts: 3304
Location: So. Cal. Oceanside GFK!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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Maybe Johnny Cash built this bus one piece at a time.
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velvetgreen
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Joined: August 17, 2004
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Location: Canada
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crofty
Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000
Posts: 19672
Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| lonotch wrote: |
| Maybe Johnny Cash built this bus one piece at a time. |
Are you saying he should take it to Reno?
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Joey
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Joined: August 12, 2005
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Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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So, has the other side of the metal where the VIN is stamped been looked at for tampering?
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lonotch
Samba Padrino
Joined: August 28, 2004
Posts: 3304
Location: So. Cal. Oceanside GFK!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| crofty wrote: |
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| Maybe Johnny Cash built this bus one piece at a time. |
Are you saying he should take it to Reno? |
Hella yeah! I heard Johnnys band mates Welder and the bodyman will be there......
Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles.
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Malokin Martin
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Joined: August 19, 2007
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Location: E-burg
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:58 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Joey wrote: |
| So, has the other side of the metal where the VIN is stamped been looked at for tampering? |
| campingbox wrote: |
| Has the birth certificate been authenticated for that vin number? |
It would be nice to know the answers to the above inbetween the rage posts |
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swharris
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Joined: September 10, 2010
Posts: 496
Location: N. Orange County
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| swharris wrote: |
| lenny copp wrote: |
| Still learning lol |
As a respected and ethical restoration shop owner(IMO), I think your perspective is quite valuable in this discussion. Would you be willing to give your opinion on the situation? Have you ever had someone bring a bus/car to you that was obviously not originally from the factory as it was being presented or what they asked you to "create"?
What do you see as the resto shop/s responsibility in a situation like this?
Thanks for your insight. |
Yes Lenny please do add your thoughts, experiences and comments... We’d love to hear 👂 |
No reply. I'm shocked....? |
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velvetgreen
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Location: Canada
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velvetgreen
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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With the requisite fine print
"Information found on the website is presented as advance information for the auction lot. Photos, materials for videos, descriptions and other information are provided by the consignor/seller and is deemed reliable, but Mecum Auction does not verify, warrant or guarantee this information. The lot and information presented at auction on the auction block supersedes any previous descriptions or information. Mecum is not responsible for information that may be changed or updated prior to the auction. The decision to purchase should be based solely on the buyers personal inspection of the lot at the auction site prior to the auction." |
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Braukuche
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Joined: September 03, 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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Is that a bus or an over inflated bus shaped balloon? I can't tell.
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Joey
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Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:59 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
Is that a bus or an over inflated bus shaped balloon? I can't tell. |
I was thinking it looked a bit bloated as well. Appearantly, high noon is not a good time to take pics of a bus...
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vwuberalles
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EmpiGT
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:29 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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Looking at those aren't they both already sold? Looks like the auction date was nov. of last year. |
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easy e
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Joined: May 28, 2008
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Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: Re: My new baby! |
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| Joey wrote: |
I was thinking it looked a bit bloated as well. Appearantly, high noon is not a good time to take pics of a bus... |
Does the heat of the direct sunlight make the bondo swell up or something? |
When the light source is more perpindicular to the surface (high noon/straight overhead) it makes a non-flat surface more apparent... more shadows.
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