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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

I'm using VAG pattern driveshafts in the prototype... my only concern is that the 250HP versions fitted to the Audi TT / Golf R32 may not survive Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

While we continue our deliberations on the battery box design, my thoughts have turned to the instrumentation Cool

I intend to have a tablet mounted on the overhead ventilation duct which will display detailed system data. However, I also want a 'speedometer' that can be used as the only instrument for everyday driving.

Traditionally the split bus has a single 4.5" (115mm) gauge which could potentially be increased to 5.5" (140mm) without any major changes to the metalwork.

I have been unable to find any off the shelf solutions to-date and I'm therefore investigating the possibility of reverse engineering gauges from the New Beetle, VW Mini, Porsche, and others. Obviously these could be engineered to 'look' traditional while providing instrumentation more suitable for use in an electric vehicle.

That said, I'm also fascinated by the opportunities offered by modern OEM displays such as those fitted to the Fiat 500 which includes both a partial and full LCD variant in a 7" display format Surprised

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

i like the stuff that jonathan ward builds (youtube). all his cars are from the 50s to the 80s. He works with Dakota Digital and is always able to marry vintage aesthetics with modern technology.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

mandraks wrote:
i like the stuff that jonathan ward builds (youtube). all his cars are from the 50s to the 80s. He works with Dakota Digital and is always able to marry vintage aesthetics with modern technology.

I agree, Jonathan Ward's work is inspirational Smile

I've reviewed Dakota Digital's products and they don't have anything that really fits the requirements. I also suspect they are not approved for legal use in Europe, although I did give up trying after three failed attempts to obtain some gauge mounting drawings Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Lots fabrication underway on the main battery box (located between the main chassis rails) which I'll share next week Cool

In the meantime I'm playing with electric parking brakes from the BMW X5/X6 Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

We modified the Tesla cups so that we can test the VAG driveshafts with the 'small' drive unit Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

First stage of the main battery box fabrication is nearing completion. This steel structure will be welded into place between the main chassis rails providing additional stiffness to the VW chassis and a sealed enclosure for eight Tesla modules Cool

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Awesome build and I nearly missed it because I mostly post in the bay forum.

Do you have any more info about the company that was building a DIY system using Tesla parts for air cooled vw's?

I am planning to convert my ghia to electric but so many new things are coming out (electric transmissions, better batteries) including being able to use Tesla setups that I'm forced to impatiently wait while the innovation comes to the diyer.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

ivwshane wrote:
Awesome build and I nearly missed it because I mostly post in the bay forum.

I'm glad you like it Very Happy

ivwshane wrote:
Do you have any more info about the company that was building a DIY system using Tesla parts for air cooled vw's?

Several companies have discussed DIY Tesla kits but to be honest the technology is moving so fast that any kit would be out of date (and expensive) in no time. For example, EV West have a Beetle conversion kit (not using Tesla parts) for 18990 USD (here) which has lower performance and half the range of a 2014 Nissan Leaf you can buy for 5000 USD Shocked

Here's a good example of how rapidly things are changing... a project that is converting a modern BMW from diesel to electric for 1000 Euros (1200 USD) or less Cool

http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193217
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Good progress on the panel that will become the 'floor' of the main battery box. This structure will be inverted and the box section welded to the reinforced main chassis members providing a sealed cavity for eight battery modules. Every bolt has a corresponding nut that is welded to the box section and final airtightness will be provided by sealant similar to that used on the Nissan/Tesla batteries Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Main battery box lining test fitting Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

great work/engineering!

please keep posting progress Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

StefDS wrote:
great work/engineering!

please keep posting progress Cool

Many thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

We spun up the Tesla drive unit for the first time this week... I'll record some video once we have the driveshafts fitted.

In the meantime here's the 'large' drive unit with the open source controller Cool


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Main battery box lining being prepared for spot welding to the floor I beams Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Main battery box 'floor' structure ready for welding to the bus chassis rails (note holes for fire exhaust valves at each end of battery box) Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Main battery box awaiting seam welding Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Rather a lot of seam welding Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Nice paint job Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

This is an awesome thread, I hope one day to do the same for my bus!
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