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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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I'm using VAG pattern driveshafts in the prototype... my only concern is that the 250HP versions fitted to the Audi TT / Golf R32 may not survive
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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While we continue our deliberations on the battery box design, my thoughts have turned to the instrumentation
I intend to have a tablet mounted on the overhead ventilation duct which will display detailed system data. However, I also want a 'speedometer' that can be used as the only instrument for everyday driving.
Traditionally the split bus has a single 4.5" (115mm) gauge which could potentially be increased to 5.5" (140mm) without any major changes to the metalwork.
I have been unable to find any off the shelf solutions to-date and I'm therefore investigating the possibility of reverse engineering gauges from the New Beetle, VW Mini, Porsche, and others. Obviously these could be engineered to 'look' traditional while providing instrumentation more suitable for use in an electric vehicle.
That said, I'm also fascinated by the opportunities offered by modern OEM displays such as those fitted to the Fiat 500 which includes both a partial and full LCD variant in a 7" display format
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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i like the stuff that jonathan ward builds (youtube). all his cars are from the 50s to the 80s. He works with Dakota Digital and is always able to marry vintage aesthetics with modern technology. _________________ regards
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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mandraks wrote: |
i like the stuff that jonathan ward builds (youtube). all his cars are from the 50s to the 80s. He works with Dakota Digital and is always able to marry vintage aesthetics with modern technology. |
I agree, Jonathan Ward's work is inspirational
I've reviewed Dakota Digital's products and they don't have anything that really fits the requirements. I also suspect they are not approved for legal use in Europe, although I did give up trying after three failed attempts to obtain some gauge mounting drawings |
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:55 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Lots fabrication underway on the main battery box (located between the main chassis rails) which I'll share next week
In the meantime I'm playing with electric parking brakes from the BMW X5/X6
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:04 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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We modified the Tesla cups so that we can test the VAG driveshafts with the 'small' drive unit
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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First stage of the main battery box fabrication is nearing completion. This steel structure will be welded into place between the main chassis rails providing additional stiffness to the VW chassis and a sealed enclosure for eight Tesla modules
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ivwshane Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Awesome build and I nearly missed it because I mostly post in the bay forum.
Do you have any more info about the company that was building a DIY system using Tesla parts for air cooled vw's?
I am planning to convert my ghia to electric but so many new things are coming out (electric transmissions, better batteries) including being able to use Tesla setups that I'm forced to impatiently wait while the innovation comes to the diyer. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:18 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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ivwshane wrote: |
Awesome build and I nearly missed it because I mostly post in the bay forum. |
I'm glad you like it
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Do you have any more info about the company that was building a DIY system using Tesla parts for air cooled vw's? |
Several companies have discussed DIY Tesla kits but to be honest the technology is moving so fast that any kit would be out of date (and expensive) in no time. For example, EV West have a Beetle conversion kit (not using Tesla parts) for 18990 USD (here) which has lower performance and half the range of a 2014 Nissan Leaf you can buy for 5000 USD
Here's a good example of how rapidly things are changing... a project that is converting a modern BMW from diesel to electric for 1000 Euros (1200 USD) or less
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193217 |
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:58 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Good progress on the panel that will become the 'floor' of the main battery box. This structure will be inverted and the box section welded to the reinforced main chassis members providing a sealed cavity for eight battery modules. Every bolt has a corresponding nut that is welded to the box section and final airtightness will be provided by sealant similar to that used on the Nissan/Tesla batteries
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:20 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Main battery box lining test fitting
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StefDS Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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great work/engineering!
please keep posting progress |
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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StefDS wrote: |
great work/engineering!
please keep posting progress |
Many thanks |
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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We spun up the Tesla drive unit for the first time this week... I'll record some video once we have the driveshafts fitted.
In the meantime here's the 'large' drive unit with the open source controller
Link
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:19 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Main battery box lining being prepared for spot welding to the floor I beams
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:22 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Main battery box 'floor' structure ready for welding to the bus chassis rails (note holes for fire exhaust valves at each end of battery box)
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:33 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Main battery box awaiting seam welding
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:46 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Rather a lot of seam welding
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Kevin Sharpe Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:38 am Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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Nice paint job
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dumptuck Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive |
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This is an awesome thread, I hope one day to do the same for my bus! |
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