Aluminum subframe bushings solid mount kit

[ronbug73]

Hi samba
what do you think about the ALUMINUM SUBFRAME BUSHINGS SOLID MOUNT KIT?

thank you
Ron

[Clatter]

Where did you see this?

A couple of thoughts:

1. In a high-powered car, especially a drag car, especially with slicks,
The rubber sub-frame bushes can cause wheel hop, and badly.
In these type of applications, a solid mount kit can be mandatory.

2. For a street car, with street manners,
The rubber mounts isolating the vibration/noise from the axle/suspension/drivetrain assemblies, at both ends,
makes the car more quiet, comfortable, smooth, and luxurious, even?
The difference in ride quality between the Beetle, with its solid mounted beam and torsion assembly, and the rubber-mounted Type 3, is noticeable.

3. There have been bushings made from Delrin (IIRC), or some other material stiffer than rubber, that can be a sort of compromise between solid and rubber, for a high-powered car, that can still maintain some if its ride quality..
Faintly remember Type 3 Detectives in the UK selling these,
Not sure if that is still true..
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[ronbug73]

Hi Clatter
i bought them from isp 4 years ago
i was thinking to use them on the restoration
this summer. i understand the ride will become more like a beetle


where can i buy new rubber?
Thank you
Ron

[Clatter]

[supersuk]

I remember seeing the delrin ones too, but can't remember from who. I wish I can get a 3d scan of those aluminum bushings so I can make some with my CNC router.
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[Critter1]

Type 3 Detectives sold the Delrin bushings. I bought two sets from them years ago. I have a set in my Notchback now, and I wouldn't have it any other way. If you're going to have some power pushing your car and would like to have some fun with it, then use them. So what, they might make a little extra road noise... Are you going for a 100% original resto? Or mild performance? If you install the original rubbers (which can be worn out BTW.. and can cause your subframe to sit wonky..) the first time you take off from a stop light all balls out and you get tons of wheel hop/chatter.... you'll wish you went ahead and used the aluminum bushings.

My two cents.
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[raygreenwood]

If I had a choice....personally.....I would use glass filled delrin. Not aluminum.

The stiffness of a glass filled delrin bushing and an aluminum bushing used in this function will be equal.

The problem with aluminum....is that it will be sandwiched between steel in an area prone to water spray and chemical contamination. Galvanic corrosion risk is high.

Those look to be anodized.....which goes a long way toward being less prone to galvanic corrosion. Just keep an eye on them over time. They look very nicely made!

Ray

[Brent]

I have a set of those ISP aluminum bushings.

Ray - do you think they could be used to make a silicone mold to cast some type of urethane bushing?
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[jgordon]

heya All

i have the same set from SprintStar
i wouldn't have it any other way

my 68Square
full automatic and Small engine

i notice a little rattle at idle but once moving no issues
NO SQUEAKS
no more washing around in the rear end the original rubber ones were way too soft

i personally like em and really don't notice any additional harshness in the suspension
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[Jason37]

Can someone post the dimensions of the front body to beam bushings? Mine were toast and need to make some out of aluminum to fit a new front clip.

[ronbug73]

I bought front new bushing from Mario T3hq

he is in the classified

[Clatter]

I'd pay whatever the asking is for a set of harder rubber or urethane, or..?

Both front and rear..


Wheel hop breaks parts,
And a beetle don't ride all so bad..
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[chaosisme]

My rubber bushings were worn out and I replaced them with the SprintStar set. Im impressed with them so far, the car feels much better.
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[andybla]

only brand new rubbers in my search so far are these, but they are mexican...

https://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Typ3-Typ34-Gummilager-D...SwsABabij4

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