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sled Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:42 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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this is in fact a numbers matching '51 engine and the fiber cam gear was replaced many years ago when the car was still in use in Finland.
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This is supposed to be a numbers matching '51. Has the same serif A stamp as my '51 engine.
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splitjunkie Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4092
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:23 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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My October '51 engine has the A and had the fiber cam gear when I got it. _________________ Chris
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sweden Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 227 Location: sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:44 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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I have "known" this for 20-30 years but can´t figure out from what i've learned it.
I have never thought of this before before i saw this thread..
Yesterday i went through everything i have but found no evidence for what i'm saying is right.
I read the VW Progressive Refinements yesterday that is here on thesamba to.
This is what i found abote the Bakelit fiber camgear in Typ 1.
March 21, 1951 ch no 1-0241734 engine number 1-0287661 came a new camgear in a fiber material "RESITEX" Bakelit but only on export cars to make the engines quieter.
In December 1 1955 the new cam gear in aluminum was tested in some cars. From ch no 1-1033950 engine number 1-231475 to 1-245817.
In February 24, 1956 from ch no 1-114318 engine number 1-336623 to 1-443574, another 20000 aluminum camgears were fitted.
In August 21 1956 ch no. 1-266678 (1) engine 1-518878 now all the De luxe sedan gets camgears in aluminum.
Could it be that in all new engine with fiber camgears have the A stamp so they would known in what engine they where installed in but why did they wanted to know that?
What speaks against my knowledge is, then we should have sees many overcrossed A or abraded A when the fiber was exchanged and that have i never seen.
So I can have completely wrong. _________________ Me and my sons cars Typ1 -49 -50 -51 -52 -52 -53 -53 -54 -55 -55 -56 -56 -57 -58 cab -64 cab
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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Your welcome.
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sweden Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:05 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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Thanks IN2VWS!
Haha suddenly it happens!!
This was the text I had on a handwritten note for 20-30 years ago. Now i can stop looking after it. _________________ Me and my sons cars Typ1 -49 -50 -51 -52 -52 -53 -53 -54 -55 -55 -56 -56 -57 -58 cab -64 cab
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IN2VWS Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:36 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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.....Some more letters for you......
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:46 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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Awesome.
It appears as though they used either one from early on.
A '52 taken at that time
A '53 oval taken at the time.
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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1048 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:45 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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I have a set of original VW drawings from 1949, at the page showing the engine there is a comment: A "eingschlagen", "Nur bei Motoren nach A-.10.00 o.Z." In the labelling field, there is an additional comment: 19.4.51 "A-Kennzeichnung u. Bemerkung neu (weitere Änd siehe Blatt 1 u 2)"
roughly translated:
A "stamped", "only on engines after A-.10.00 o.Z." comment in labelling field: 19.4.51 "A-marking and comment new (additional changes see page 1 and 2)" |
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sweden Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:04 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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Hi Pastellgreen! I saw you changed your post so i deleted my comment. _________________ Me and my sons cars Typ1 -49 -50 -51 -52 -52 -53 -53 -54 -55 -55 -56 -56 -57 -58 cab -64 cab
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oldzwit Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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So would a 9 -12 - 30
Be a 9th of December 1960 shift 3
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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:19 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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Very interesting topic. I've often seen the 'A' on cases and not known the meaning.
So I present the 'Da Vinci code' of case stamping if anyone wants to have a guess.
I've just assumed it's been rebuilt a lot.
These smaller stampings are probably the only ones likely to be a vw/ factory thing.
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IN2VWS Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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The 2nd engine rebuilt by Robert Paul Bradley Mason? _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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IN2VWS wrote: |
The 2nd engine rebuilt by Robert Paul Bradley Mason? |
No idea. Don't even know who that is sorry. At least not by name. Engine came out of a property in the Dandenong ranges. It's been rebuilt post dropping a valve, and not been run since _________________ Collector of all things Volkswagen, Hazet and Matra.
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leowagen Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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Mine is from April '57, apparently original (number shown in all the documentation I have) and has a "W" stamped....
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bwaz Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:57 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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oldzwit wrote: |
So would a 9 -12 - 30
Be a 9th of December 1960 shift 3
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So would this have the Oddball red tipped oil stick? Other posts Say August 60 was the change. |
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BulliBill Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:41 am Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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I've got both an "A" stamp (for the removed back in 1999) Bakelite cam gear, and also a "W" stamp, as well as a few other tiny stamps... Didi I miss it? What is the "W" for?
Bill Bowman _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
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bwaz Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: The A stamp on 36hp blocks |
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I know, old topic… but I too have a bunch of numbers on a 36 horse case. They read.. 0094, 0251, 0168 and a larger W42
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