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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:43 pm    Post subject: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Hey guys, first off..... thanks in advance for any help. Does anyone have a picture of the dash on a 1955 oval ragtop semaphore car? Just picked one up a few days ago off of here and it has a few holes that where done at come point along its life. Want to go back to og and fix it. Need to know what it should look like. Once I figure out how to post pictures on here I will add some. Also would like to know the knob and what they control . Thanks !
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Just about forgot...it is a 11/55. Two fold w semaphores so I’m assuming it started it’s life somewhere other than the states ?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

My 1956 convertible (build date Aug 9, 1955) yours would be the same minus clock,gas gauge
& grab handle
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Thanks a lot, from left to right ... what are the knobs ? Also would there be a semaphore witch or would it be the turn signal switch ?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Here you go and yes turn signal switch activates semaphores.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Awesome man thank you so much. Would you know if it would have been an import from somewhere since it has semaphores?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

By Nov '55 (1956 model year) all USA spec Beetles had blinker systems, not semaphores. Your car probably was not a USA spec car. You'd have to write to VW in Germany with your chassis number and pay for a "birth certificate" which usually tells what country your car was initially shipped to.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

As a Bill mentioned, you don’t have a ‘55, you have a ‘56. Semaphores were dropped for the American market early in ‘55 and the ‘55 model year only went from January ’55 to Aug of ‘55 that’s when the official Aug-Aug model year started for VW from there on out, so Aug ‘55 is the ‘56 model year. It wasn’t like that before. You have a euro market Beetle. ‘ 55 was the first year for bullet turn signals with snowflake tail lights and towel rail (ram protection) bumpers standard for the American market and would have a 3 fold ragtop, and ribbed doors as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

My vin plate up front stamped 1955
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Andrezleuro wrote:
My vin plate up front stamped 1955


As mentioned, Any date stamp starting in Aug of ‘55 is a ‘56, you don’t have a ‘55.

If you go out to whatever modern car you have right now and look at the sticker in the door jam of the drivers door it is likely that your 2003 Chevy suburban was made in the previous year of what it is, 10/2002 for example, that doesn’t make it a 2002.

Manufacturers have the practice of Model years starting in Aug of the previous year and run to Aug of the current year for that model. As mentioned, VW started this practice in Aug of ‘55. Before that they went with the calendar year.

My ‘65 beetle was made Aug of ‘64 and sold in Aug of ‘64 to the original owner.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Got it, thanks a lot !
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

... please tell us the stamped body number... that's the number, behind the spate tire, next to the brake reservoir....
... sometimes lots of things are changed and we get confused... this body number will clear things up... if your plate states 1955, it might be... just digging a little deeper.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

... you might look in the technical section, here on thesamba, look at a 1955 owner manual dash, to learn where everything is located on the dash..... here's mine, a 3/55, body number 747 714

... is your speedo in MPH or KPH... do you have a smaller hump gas tank or a bigger rectangular one with a huge 100 mm gas cap... ? We'll get to the bottom of this... many times there is a date on the back of your speedo... that'll tell you roughly what year and month your car was built...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Plate is stamped 1955
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Andrezleuro wrote:
Plate is stamped 1955


As it has been said already, that doesn’t matter. The vin is what matters.

You have a 2 fold, so if that is original and not an incorrect graft, you are already looking at it being a ‘56. Do you have ribbed or smooth doors, large square gas tank or humped gas tank? Smooth rear apron or dual outlet rear apron? Sure, many of these could have been changed, but they paint the picture.....speaking of picture, pictures sure do help us.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

I believe it’s a 56 since it’s 11/55 build. I’ll post pictures soon
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Andrezleuro wrote:
I believe it’s a 56 since it’s 11/55 build. I’ll post pictures soon


Yup, ‘56 and NOT a ‘55

‘55 shares a lot with the split window bugs and ‘56 was the change over year. They don’t really share much with ‘55 and down. Doors are different, gas tank is different, door jamb stamping is different, floorpans are different, seats are different, inside door handles and window winders are different, engine stuff is different, and on and on and on.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

Good to know, it’s a complete car only thing missing is the driver seat.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

... what's your body number?
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1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some help... 1955 oval ragtop semaphore. Reply with quote

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