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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

I got from a friend a front beam from March 56 which is the same month as my beetle, so I started the restoration process. it is my winter project.
Thet plan is to put it on the vert once complete because the one I have in place is 4" narrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

I am so glad you are dumping that narrowed front beam for a return to a stock front end. I was quiet about it, but for me it was glaringly annoying that someone did that to an otherwise incredibly original old vintage Kabriolett. Nice move! That Kab will finally be PERFECT!

I have a long-stored "project" USA spec 1957 Kabriolett awaiting a full restoration, also black with the red interior. You Kab is an inspiration to me, and my Kab is almost at the top of my "to do" list...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

BulliBill wrote:
I am so glad you are dumping that narrowed front beam for a return to a stock front end. I was quiet about it, but for me it was glaringly annoying that someone did that to an otherwise incredibly original old vintage Kabriolett. Nice move! That Kab will finally be PERFECT!

I have a long-stored "project" USA spec 1957 Kabriolett awaiting a full restoration, also black with the red interior. You Kab is an inspiration to me, and my Kab is almost at the top of my "to do" list...

Bill Bowman


Thanks for the words!
It was a matter of time for me to find a front beam with the correct numbers stamped on it between February / early march 1956 production.
I was lucky enough to get it from a friend which did not cost to me that much and was just 2.5 hours away from home to pick-up.

I took the christmas break to put it appart and start degreasing the old stuff.
I was afraid about the rust on it put it just had a little hole on the side that i started work on and needed attention.

I have also made few holes on the arms that receive the top of the chock and the inside structure showed fresh unrusted metal. yeah...!!

it will receive a full sanblast and rust treatmant before patching the little hole I made intentionaly.
Paint should be satin black at the end.

I will post pictures and progress time to time !!

Stay tuned.
/Jerome
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

Here is clearer pictures of the engine with those great cyclone filters.
So happy to be able to get a set in my hands.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

and a picture of the garage:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

The bug is on the stand, while rebuilding an original front beam I am going to redo all brakes and drums, sandblast the surface rust and paint what has to be painted satin black.
Wheel bearing will also be changed as well as link pin and king pin.

I also built those custom wood beams that fit the wheel dolies, so I will be able to move the car around.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

The beam is now desassembled, and all of the grease inside the tubes has been removed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

the small hole at the top of the arm was to check the inside of the structure and make sure there is no bad corrosion. By chance the metal is still fresh inside but I will inject a treatment to keep it preserved and weld it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

However the portion in between the 2 tubes had more corrosion so I cut a bigger hole I order to remove the rust and get the sandblast gun blast inside it.
After I will put a corrosion treatment and weld a small patch of metal.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

I am restauring all of the brake, and the rear right plate seems to be missing the little metal pins that keep the 2 screw in place.

Does anoene know how I can make a repair for that or find this little piece ?

thanks for help.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211609185A

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

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Thanks I was not aware these little pieces were reproduced.
By the time I just found a set of really good used backing plates with minor rust and complete.

I will post pictures when I get them.

/Jerome
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

Here are new upates,
today I started to remove the front beam bushing.
Here are some picture of the little tools I have built for that. It did work pretty well.

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and after some times:
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and my garage build thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199438

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

Here is a collection of few nos parts I put my hands on to redo the link pin king pin and rear backing plates.
Wheel cylinder are NOS with ATE stamping on them, just to it has surface rust while staying on the shelf for years.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

I also removed the fuel tank and will perform complete clean up of the front end compartment.
I will probably redo the pading by using horseair in order to keep things clean and as original as possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

Since the front beam is out I decided to redo the wheel arch protection.
Nasty job to remove the old protection. I am not fully done, but not rust issues so far !!

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Check my blog: http://us-road-trip-vw-bus.skynetblogs.be/
and my garage build thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199438

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

the wheel arch is now to ground metal.
No rust issue at the end.

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Here are the tools I used:
1 and 2 were the most efficient tools without grinding to much the og metal::

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My 60 SO23 westy: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=341539
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and my garage build thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199438

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon to be the second owner of this oval vert Reply with quote

some progress guys still removing tar in the front end, I addressed the nose of the frame and the front kick wall:

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My 60 SO23 westy: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=341539
Check my blog: http://us-road-trip-vw-bus.skynetblogs.be/
and my garage build thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199438

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