New to the forum, starting with an engine!

[plotch]

Nice to see the forum exercising restraint.

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...unless you knew a retired guy with a car hauler with a winch in San Antonio
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Baja Bugs for Volkswagen Virgins: Index

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Actually, those 5 bugs in Cedar Crest could be viable. I did figure out a place I could maybe put them, and I also have a friend who may be interested in splitting them with me, who also has a car trailer. And I have a trailer that could take 2.

[dustymojave]

Some more info for you regarding using that 40horse engine...

VW changed from 6Volt to 12Volt in 1967. 1966 and earlier models were ALL originally 6V, but most of those have long since been converted to 12V.

If you wind up with a 12V body and chassis, you will be able to convert the engine to 12V. OR you can use your 6V parts in the car, although 6V batteries are not readily available or cheap these days. And I really can't see any advantage to go with 6V other than possible $$ difference in initial setup.

If you go with 6V in a 12V car, you would need to convert all bulbs in the car to 6V, including the dash bulbs, turn indicators, brake lights, dome light, turn flasher, and headlights; replace the 12V voltage regulator under the back seat with the 6V one on the generator, and re-wire for it. 6V headlight bulbs have a different location nub pattern on the back of the edge from 12V, so you would need to modify the headlight mounts for that. I haven't seen 6V headlight bulbs for sale for many years, although some VW supply shops MIGHT carry them for early Bug restoration/maintenance. The 6V starter motor will bolt in, but will require a replacement of the starter shaft bushing in the bell housing.

If you go with 12V in a 12V car, the 6V starter can still be used IF you do like I did for my 58 with the 1385 40hp engine. I used a 12V starter solenoid on the 6V starter. Spins much faster than normal that way and would be good for a high-compression engine. But you still need to replace the starter shaft bushing in the bell housing. Many people have told me 12V would fry the starter right away...I don't THINK so. A 6V solenoid might fry pretty quick though. My original 1958 6V starter motor was still going strong on 12V with over 750,000 total miles on it when I swapped out the 40horse engine for a 1600. The starter had 360,000 miles on it when I converted to 12V.

OR- you can swap out the 6V flywheel for a 12V. It will fit the crank, but the o-ring oil seal in the flywheel won't fit the crank, so you will still need to use the gasket between the crank end and the flywheel. Then you use a 12V (200mm) clutch disc and pressure plate instead of the 6V 180mm clutch disc and pressure plate. Also, if the trans has a bushing tube for the throwout bearing, you will need to use a 12V clutch with no ring for that type of bearing - OR - replace the throwout shaft with an early style with early throwout bearing and remove the sleeve (it fastens to the bellhousing with 3 bolts).[/i]
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Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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Kicked Cancer's A$$...1st and 2nd round...Fight ain't over yet.

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[Mal evolent]

you need an alternator stand, alternator diameter is bigger than generator

you also need to change the coil
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Baja Bugs for Volkswagen Virgins: Index

[dustymojave]

A VW alternator stand fits both a Generator and an alternator. A 12V generator stand only fits a 12V generator. An alternator stand is "cut away" to clear the fat pulley end of the alternator. Alternator and Generator use the same pulley. Same fan too, unless you install a "Dog House" oil cooler and the shroud for it. Then the fan is thicker, front to back, than a fan for 40horse and 1500/early 1600.
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Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
SoCalBajas Member
Kicked Cancer's A$$...1st and 2nd round...Fight ain't over yet.

[startwithengine]

Alright my list is coming together thanks so much for all the help.

I am going to go with the 6v starter/12v solenoid option.

I like the idea of starting the car from a dead battery by rolling it down a hill, and generators are cheaper than alternators. But they also seem kind of sketchy, and produce less amperage. I'm curious what other people run? Also it seems like people have problems with he alternator hitting the carb.

I need to get a 12 volt coil.

My work has slowed significantly because I am studying for finals but once those are over in a few weeks I'm going straight into the bug!

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