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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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I’d say try the diaphragm type it’s different feel, less effort easier on the cable the tube and hook maybe I love it in my 74. It works even better with newer throwout bearing w/guide I seem to remember you had a 70 transaxle with needs only to be drilled and tapped to update. Swap in stronger cross shaft and you are done. It’s a worthwhile mod |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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vamram wrote: |
Cusser, I think the center ring/arms flatten out once you torque the pressure plate to the flywheel. |
Yes.
But both those pictures in my post just before your response were made with the pressure plate just sitting on the table. With the center ring further up like in the second photo, the "depth" is similar to that on the new diaphragm pressure plate. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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I have purchased a transmission from MoFoCo. After 260K miles, and 220K of that with my 1835cc engine, it's time.
Today I found a decades-old engine lid latch that I had taken out of service way back when because it became that the latch would open far enough in the "locked" position that my engine lid could be opened. So today I took a small piece of metal bracket, bent it 90 degrees at the end to fit into the lock hole and hold the lock pin in place enough to lock the latch, and JB Welded that to hold it, see the red arrow. The key has the VW logo on it but even though I seem to keep almost everything (except my original mufflers, distributors, carburetors) I cannot find a second key.
_________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Cusser wrote: |
I have purchased a transmission from MoFoCo. After 260K miles, and 220K of that with my 1835cc engine, it's time. |
The transmission arrived yesterday; I opened the box this afternoon, was packed very well.
I had been planning on removing the fill plug and checking the gear oil level anyway, as I knew many rebuilt transmissions are not shipped/delivered containing oil (knew this from where I worked in the 1970s).
The transmission had a tag stating that it had no oil, so now that's a known. I have a 4-quart container of Valvoline gear oil for this (5.3 pt capacity). Looks like a brand new bowden tube mount.
I also confirmed that it's set up for my 1970 type of release bearing. Might also be a brand-new clutch arm assembly.
I'm planning the install for the mornings of April 7 and 8. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31359 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Cusser wrote: |
I'm planning the transmission install for the mornings of April 7 and 8. |
I added the Valvoline gear oil in Phoenix because I could simply use a funnel.
I transported the transmission up north in its shipping box and packing. The transmission itself weighs about 80 pounds so I can lift it by myself (when not in the box).
Engine R&R went smoothly, just a little rear rubber seal came unseated. Transmission removal was straightforward, just a pain to move the axles then lock the rear brakes so I could get the 12 CV bolts loose.
I replaced the front transmission seal and mount because I had no idea of their condition, and likely were the originals, and this is the time to attend to those.
I got the transmission installed, and made sure that the clutch cable would not fall off the pedal during all this. I cleaned up and installed the ground strap. I replaced the accelerator guide/bowden tube with new, but later found out that the Mexican-made replacement was 1" too long, so couldn't use it as then my cable wouldn't reach the carb.
Release bearing swapped over. Transmission in.
Talked to Ken at European Auto Machining at the Bug-o-Rama (he did my engine machining), and he recommended re-doing the crankshaft oil seal since mine was leaking a little and the engine would be out anyway. Good thing: the spring of the seal had come loose somehow, I had never seen that before in a VW even when I was workin' on them !! Replaced the O-ring in the flywheel too.
I installed the engine all by myself (no helper for any of this), used the 10mm x 1.5mm x 70mm allen head bolt I bought for the upper left engine mount, uses an 8mm allen drive.
I'd put about 400 miles on the rebuilt engine, and it had started running poorly at about the same time the transmission went south, so I'd put the engine issues on the back burner. But it was time for valve adjustment and oil/filter change anyway, so I decided to check the valve adjustment. #1 and #2 were perfect, but here's what I found on#3 intake:
The rocker and its threads were OK, and after watching baseball and the Masters I was getting antsy, so I decided to REVERSE the adjuster just to try out, and adjusted it using needle nose visegrips and the locknut. Well, that pretty much "solved" the engine issue I'd been having. I ordered real replacements for the adjuster and nut (set of three for $12 shipped).
So I drove the VW about a mile yesterday, seemed to shift OK; can't give it a real tryout until I get the replacement valve adjuster parts. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31359 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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gt1953 wrote: |
From what you are explaining sounds like the 260k tranny is tired. So do your do diligent and find the best one you are able. |
Cusser wrote: |
Cusser wrote: |
I have purchased a transmission from MoFoCo. After 260K miles, and 220K of that with my 1835cc engine, it's time. |
The transmission arrived yesterday; I opened the box this afternoon, was packed very well. |
April 7 installed the transmission, engine, new gland nut, new crankshaft oil seal; installed the bad adjuster backwards because I was antsy to try it.
Cusser wrote: |
So I drove the VW about a mile, seemed to shift OK; can't give it a real tryout until I get the replacement valve adjuster parts. |
Got new adjuster and nut, installed readily, and valve clearance set. Drove about 5 more miles (still having separate issue with the engine stalling after essentially not being driven 4 months, but that's not relevant to the transmission).
Anyway, did a fair amount of upshifts and downshifts, and into reverse, seems fine. I didn't replace the shift plate, but didn't have to monkey with the gearshift base adjustment either. So I'll be giving MoFoCo a nice rating in their feedback thread. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Glad to hear it is all well! Onto the next issue......... _________________ Jimbo
There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!
TDCTDI wrote: |
Basically, a whole bunch of fuckery to achieve a look. |
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Beetlebaum Samba Member
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Got to the VW's location today 1pm, unloaded stuff. Finally got out to the VW.
Took off air cleaner, cranks, no start.
Added starting fluid to carb, cranks, no start.
Replace 1970's coil with the 1971's, starts right up. Clean up the bottom of the 1970 coil, clean up the terminals, reinstall, starts right up. So leaving its own coil in there, also leaving a stock old black coil here in its trunk. Wires were not off or loose, must've been a spark jumping.
So nice to have an easy fix, maybe having my 1971 parts, timing light, dwell meter, extra points and condenser here just scared it. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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With the coil cleaned up and 1970 VW now running, Mrs. Cusser used it to drag the horse arena. I'm hoping to take it for a ride later, give the new transmission a good test. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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joey1320 Samba Member
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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joey1320 wrote: |
Nice.
Any pics of it working? |
Yep, worked good.
VW at Ace Hardware today, needed utility knife blades and some screw eyes/hooks (their parts are "blessed", small town).
VW at rental center today, they have a gorilla statue for some reason
_________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Drove the VW more today (have been a little under the weather, congestion), all shifts fine power good, still need to bring up the dwell/tach and timing light and adjust the timing and carb better. VW shifted fine, zero bad shifts so far at all. Pounded the tunnel cut-out back into position, MoFoCo transmission not only shifts tons better than the old one, but way quieter too.
While I was working on Mrs. Cusser's trailer noticed a drop of oil from front of VW transmission, had to disconnect back-up switch wires and use the 22mm box wrench to tighten that a tad, and then fight the wires back on. Of course I expect a 12-cent credit someday for my effort !!! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Today, at the advice (OK: nagging) of Mrs. Cusser, I removed the discolored old window film from the front windows and vent windows of the 1970 sedan.
After looking on Google and YouTube, and not having a "clothes steamer" (you kidding - with MY wardrobe???) and little success with Mrs. Cusser's hair dryer to warm the film, I decided to use my trusty single edge razor blade held in a little plastic holder, which I clamped in a Vise-Grips for safety. I also wore work gloves and safety glasses, in case the blade (I only had ONE blade here) broke.
So the manual labor with the single-single edge razor blade worked pretty well, then I used a little steel wool to remove any remaining glue, and also used some Windex-clone spray. So now the 43-year old window tint film is gone from those windows, we'll see if I feel up to doing the rear side and rear window someday.
You guys do not want or need to see "after" photos, here's a "before" photo
Then I drove into town to pick up a few things, including more single edge razor blades. I still smelled gas from when I filled the tank fully, from the area of those two small fuel filler hoses in the trunk. So I removed those and removed the little rubber seals that look like strips of bicycle tires and were ripped anyway, and just will try using the hoses and the 4 hose clamps tightened fully. A quick trip around the corral making sharp turns intentionally did not show any gas leakage so far.
The fill hose inner diameter is 48mm (1 and 7/8 inch) - Dayco #80305 runs about $30 for a three foot piece; Gates 23930 is more expensive for 1 foot and sold by the foot. I think if I need to replace the hose I'll get the Dayco and run a single piece of hose rather than getting 1 foot of Gates and using the black plastic VW elbow. And I'd try that without those separate rubber seals, seems like a redundancy.
An 8.5 inch piece of this hose sells for $17.95 at JBugs.com #311201219A https://www.jbugs.com/product/311201219A.html _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Frodge Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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What made you decide on replacing the trans instead of just the clutch and pressure plate? Just curious... |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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I did this with my '70 about 15 years ago. I had a section of chain link fence with an old armchair attached to it. I would drag it around with the three kids taking turns riding in the chair. _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
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1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Frodge wrote: |
What made you decide on replacing the trans instead of just the clutch and pressure plate? Just curious... |
Because after I had issues shifting I DID replace the clutch and pressure plate when I had the issue, went from a 3-finger type to a Brazilian Sachs diaphraqgm type, with a new pressure plate. And I did also replace the shift bushing, coupler, the clutch pedal arm, and the clutch cable, all documented earlier in this thread. I did NOT replace the gland nut (which was a year old) at that time, but DID when I added the new transmission.
Besides, that original transmission went 260K miles, over 200K with my 1835cc engine. Plus it was noisy in operation, and noisy in neutral. I'm satisfied, wanted it to work like it did in the 1970s !!! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Frodge Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Resurrection thread for my 1970 VW |
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Awesome. When I was reading i probably misunderstood. It looked like you were saying something was wrong with the pressure plate (the new one) and maybe the new clutch too. Is it totally quiet when driving now? Or just a lot better than the one with 1/4 million miles? Sounds like you need to take it on a nice long ride now! |
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