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boardman411
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:38 am Post subject: Front Badge / Bus Nose Emblem |
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Hopefully a simple question, I'm after a front badge for a 59 split..
Did the badge change at any point during the years, or does one badge fit all.. Also how do you tell if it's an original and not a repro ?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge |
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The front VW emblem was the same from 56-67. It was different for Barndoor 55 and earlier buses as they had 3 mounting posts on the rear. The one you want has 4 mounting posts on the rear. You can generally tell the reproductions from the originals here in the US because the reproductions have threaded posts on the rear and use a nut the originals had no threads and just used a push on clip to hold it in place.
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boardman411
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge |
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| Thanks, that's exactly the information I was looking for , appreciate that !! I've learnt something new today. |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge |
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You can access the VW dealer parts manual for type 2 here:
http://www.oacdp.org/
Lots of really neat exploded diagrams, with proper name of each part, how many used, what model/s used on, from which chassi to which chassi used and with the part number there you can do WWW search for hard to find parts.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Front Badge |
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| ronjonlasvegas wrote: |
| The front VW emblem was the same from 3/55-67. It was different for Barndoor (2/55 and earlier buses) as they had 3 mounting posts on the rear. The one you want has 4 mounting posts on the rear...... |
FIFY. Most buses buildt in 1955 take the later emblem. |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Front Badge |
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| Clara wrote: |
| ronjonlasvegas wrote: |
| The front VW emblem was the same from 3/55-67. It was different for Barndoor (2/55 and earlier buses) as they had 3 mounting posts on the rear. The one you want has 4 mounting posts on the rear...... |
FIFY. Most buses buildt in 1955 take the later emblem. |
Are you saying even 1955 Barndoor Buses take the later emblem?
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LAGrunthaner
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge / Bus Nose Emblem |
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I thought early buses (not Barndoor) had a separation between the V and the W on the emblem? I will look for the pics.
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| Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge / Bus Nose Emblem |
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You my be thinking of the super early Barndoor emblems that are made of Aluminum - they have a complete separation
Later Buses have a "fake" separation in that the center connector is painted:
Most of the paint there on original emblems has worn off over the years
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge / Bus Nose Emblem |
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Thanks Everett that clarifies it. Is the early aluminum barn door solid casting or pressed?
| EverettB wrote: |
You my be thinking of the super early Barndoor emblems that are made of Aluminum - they have a complete separation
Later Buses have a "fake" separation in that the center connector is painted:
Most of the paint there on original emblems has worn off over the years |
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| Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Clara
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| Clara wrote: |
| ronjonlasvegas wrote: |
| The front VW emblem was the same from 3/55-67. It was different for Barndoor (2/55 and earlier buses) as they had 3 mounting posts on the rear. The one you want has 4 mounting posts on the rear...... |
FIFY. Most buses buildt in 1955 take the later emblem. |
Are you saying even 1955 Barndoor Buses take the later emblem? |
No, I said that buses 3/55 on, which is post barndoor buses, take the later emblem.
The last ten months of 1955 production use the later emblem. That is most buses buildt in 1955.
Only the first two months of 1955 were barndoor buses.
| ronjonlasvegas wrote: |
| The front VW emblem was the same from 56-67. |
That made it sounds like the emblem change was at the beginning of 1956, which is not correct. I fixed it to say.
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| The front VW emblem was the same from 3/55-67. |
FWIW, in 1960 VW retrospectively declared the 1955 model year change to start at 3/55 VIN 20- 117 902.
This was probably to make it easy at the parts department. It clears up issues when ordering parts for your January or February 1955 bus, just call it a 54.
If they sell you later shocks, that's a pain, they just aren't a simple bolt on. Ask for 1954 shocks. Or brake parts, or emblem, etc.
If you accept that there are no 55 barndoors, it makes the later emblem 55-67.
Since that can be confusing, I find it is useful to use the month as well as year of changes, especially for pre- 1965. |
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boardman411
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge / Bus Nose Emblem |
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Anyone got a badge for sale, I'm after one.. Just missed out on one the other day.. I don't want a chrome one, and I don't want a repro...
Patina badge would be what I'm after..
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Front Badge |
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| ronjonlasvegas wrote: |
| The front VW emblem was the same from 56-67. It was different for Barndoor 55 and earlier buses as they had 3 mounting posts on the rear. The one you want has 4 mounting posts on the rear. You can generally tell the reproductions from the originals here in the US because the reproductions have threaded posts on the rear and use a nut the originals had no threads and just used a push on clip to hold it in place. |
this is a repop front emblem and it had push on clips to hold it in place and not screw-on... and besides, who would ever know how it is fastened... how would anyone ever know this iS a repop part? They look exactly the same as original and in this case, maybe better... this Westy will not be painted... body is finished.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Front Badge / Bus Nose Emblem |
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| EverettB wrote: |
Later Buses have a "fake" separation in that the center connector is painted:
Most of the paint there on original emblems has worn off over the years |
That's my bus! Took that pic right after I got the emblem. I've also paint matched the front since then...
I know, useless post, but the pic made me smile...
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Front Badge / Bus Nose Emblem |
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Regarding reproduction versus original for a ‘55-‘67 chrome emblem, has anyone found an EXACT reproduction for a chrome emblem? I have an original emblem in good condition which when held up next to a reproduction that was given to me, I do see subtle differences. And when looking at several of the vendors that sell the repros, they show the same subtle differences. I was trying to decide whether to get my original rechromed, or just use a reproduction. Now maybe I am too picky and nobody else cares, or perhaps I am looking at the wrong repros. I think that you can see a difference in the angle of the edges where the flat face of the VW meets the edges. Also, the little section between the V and the W looks a little different on some repros as well. But perhaps I am being too OCD and it won’t make a bit of a difference. So assuming I am allowed to ask a question about a vendor in this forum, which vendor carries the exact reproduction that is mentioned earlier in this thread?
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