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jdub63
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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:49 am Post subject: Front quarter spot welds |
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I'm in the process of removing the front quarter from my 57 oval. Looking at the spot welds on the firewall to quarter seam it doesn't look like I'll have much material left once I cut all the welds. It's the same on both sides, I think Hans was having a bad day and just spotted the heck out of it.
Has anyone seen this before and how did you work around it?
I would prefer to not totally destroy the quarters I'm removing.
thanks for any advice.
Jdub
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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Pretty sure it’s like that on mine too... that does hold the front shape of the car together.
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jason
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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| The curved part of welds there at the botton are the worst. There are probably 100 there. Easiest way is cut that section out and weld a new piece in if re using the quarter. Grind the piece left off. |
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dodgerodder
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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I’m going to soon be doing a front quarter on my 66 as well.
My firewall seam is the same, about 849 spot welds haha.
I hope you post your progress! Not many front replacements show anywhere.
How did you plan on opening the folded seam? I’m making a seam opener I think, to try to do a neat job and not make a mess of it |
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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I’ve heard of using an air cut off wheel to break spot welds instead of drilling them out.
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scrivyscriv
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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I have a lot of them on my '65 beetle quarter too but I don't think it's that many.. I'll look when I get home but I want to say the vertical row is spaced out a lot more with fewer overall spots.
do you have a seam buster?
this is what I use..
https://www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/SB20015/SEAM-BUSTER-DUAL-EDGED-CHISEL/
I think you can get to the other side of the quarter enough to run the seam buster between the front firewall lip and the quarter. You might try drilling a little bigger if it starts tearing the metal too much.
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theKbStockpiler
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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Groove that line of spot welds out with the edge of a grinder.
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jdub63
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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| theKbStockpiler wrote: |
| Groove that line of spot welds out with the edge of a grinder. |
I think that will be my approach.
thanks,
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dodgerodder
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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| jdub63 wrote: |
| theKbStockpiler wrote: |
| Groove that line of spot welds out with the edge of a grinder. |
I think that will be my approach.
thanks,
jdub |
I totally agree, think I’m going to do mine the same way
If you take your time, & keep checking- you can grind until the quarter just separates. It will leave the firewall flange fully intact.
Time consuming but worth it |
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jdub63
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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So I finally got a chance to start removing the quarters. Does anyone have a photo of the fuel tank supports? Mine have been pushed back a little, just wondering how far forward they need to go...
Here's a picture of mine after the quarter removal
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dodgerodder
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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Sorry I can’t help with oval measurements, but you are making great progress! So many spotwelds, it’s amazing how strong they are.
Even when there is the tiniest amount of spotweld left, it still holds strong.
Maybe for the measurements you need, you could ask in the oval section of the forum?
Keep up the great work!
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jdub63
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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Cleaned up ready to primer the enclosed areas....
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dodgerodder
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Front quarter spot welds |
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Wow that looks great, you really made some progress!
All the sheet metal really cleaned up nice, car really looks solid!
What are you thinking of priming those hidden areas with?
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