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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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I have the wing nut barely threaded on the cluch arm and there isn't enough slack to get the cable attached to the clutch pedal. I have tried to pull the clutch arm towards the front of the bus as much as I can while my son tries to connect the cluch cable to the pedal but we can't seem to do it

Do you have a bungee holding the pedal up?

Are you trying to put in the clevis pin up front or the little cam on the pivot?
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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I have the wing nut barely threaded on the cluch arm and there isn't enough slack to get the cable attached to the clutch pedal. I have tried to pull the clutch arm towards the front of the bus as much as I can while my son tries to connect the cluch cable to the pedal but we can't seem to do it

Do you have a bungee holding the pedal up?

Are you trying to put in the clevis pin up front or the little cam on the pivot?


Strange. I have always done this the other way. Attach and grease all of the up-front-stuff first, then pry that clutch arm back a little to thread the nut on out back.

Not sure about the short cable length, but it seems you may have gotten the wrong one.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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I have the wing nut barely threaded on the cluch arm and there isn't enough slack to get the cable attached to the clutch pedal. I have tried to pull the clutch arm towards the front of the bus as much as I can while my son tries to connect the cluch cable to the pedal but we can't seem to do it

Do you have a bungee holding the pedal up?

Are you trying to put in the clevis pin up front or the little cam on the pivot?


Strange. I have always done this the other way. Attach and grease all of the up-front-stuff first, then pry that clutch arm back a little to thread the nut on out back.

Not sure about the short cable length, but it seems you may have gotten the wrong one.


Got it all hooked up! Had the clevis pin and clutch lever all greased up and the wing nut barely threaded on. Pulled back the clutch arm while my older son secured the clutch lever to the pedal. I used a heavy duty magnet to hold the clutch pedal all the way up to the underside of the floor. Just need to adjust the tension now. I noticed one of the welds popped loose from the frame. I will tack that up tomorrow as well. That was a lot more involved then I originally thought it would be.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

Adjusted the tension and welded the tube.
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Shifts nicely now but I am on edge thinking the cable is going to snap.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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Shifts nicely now but I am on edge thinking the cable is going to snap.


Why? You just installed a new one, greased it up, and repaired the tube. Motor on freely, keep a spare cable and some tools in the bus, and learn to shift without the clutch for emergencies.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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Adjusted the tension and welded the tube.
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If that was my bus, I'd weld it in a few other places like the top where the seam split. Then, protect the welds with a good primer and paint. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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Shifts nicely now but I am on edge thinking the cable is going to snap.


Why? You just installed a new one, greased it up, and repaired the tube. Motor on freely, keep a spare cable and some tools in the bus, and learn to shift without the clutch for emergencies.


Agreed. She is much better off with the new parts, welded tube and being freshly greased. However, I have now experienced first hand the amount of force it takes to barely pull the transmission clutch arm back enough so I could thread the wing nut to the cable. It just seems these cables should be thicker.

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Adjusted the tension and welded the tube.
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If that was my bus, I'd weld it in a few other places like the top where the seam split. Then, protect the welds with a good primer and paint. Wink


Done and done.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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Shifts nicely now but I am on edge thinking the cable is going to snap.


Why? You just installed a new one, greased it up, and repaired the tube. Motor on freely, keep a spare cable and some tools in the bus, and learn to shift without the clutch for emergencies.


Agreed. She is much better off with the new parts, welded tube and being freshly greased. However, I have now experienced first hand the amount of force it takes to barely pull the transmission clutch arm back enough so I could thread the wing nut to the cable. It just seems these cables should be thicker.


Those cables are pretty tough as long as they aren't rubbing on anything and their route is correct. Should last tens of thousands of miles.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

cdennisg wrote:
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cdennisg wrote:
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Shifts nicely now but I am on edge thinking the cable is going to snap.


Why? You just installed a new one, greased it up, and repaired the tube. Motor on freely, keep a spare cable and some tools in the bus, and learn to shift without the clutch for emergencies.


Agreed. She is much better off with the new parts, welded tube and being freshly greased. However, I have now experienced first hand the amount of force it takes to barely pull the transmission clutch arm back enough so I could thread the wing nut to the cable. It just seems these cables should be thicker.


Those cables are pretty tough as long as they aren't rubbing on anything and their route is correct. Should last tens of thousands of miles.


That's what I am hoping for!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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I have now experienced first hand the amount of force it takes to barely pull the transmission clutch arm back enough so I could thread the wing nut to the cable.

So true.

I made this tool to pull the arm so I can use my legs against the two wheels and hold the handle near my chest while doing the nut.

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This one is made from chain link fence tension wire but a garage door spring has safety wire inside that is like this.


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It just seems these cables should be thicker..

Original VW ones are.

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Thicker than 3.5mm or .14inch. The original VW diameter is kinder on all the sliding areas as it less cutting.

You will be fine for long while as long as nothing is binding.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

BarryL wrote:
Dubskii wrote:
I have now experienced first hand the amount of force it takes to barely pull the transmission clutch arm back enough so I could thread the wing nut to the cable.

So true.

I made this tool to pull the arm so I can use my legs against the two wheels and hold the handle near my chest while doing the nut.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


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Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

This one is made from chain link fence tension wire but a garage door spring has safety wire inside that is like this.


Dubskii wrote:
It just seems these cables should be thicker..

Original VW ones are.

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Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Thicker than 3.5mm or .14inch. The original VW diameter is kinder on all the sliding areas as it less cutting.

You will be fine for long while as long as nothing is binding.

Interesting. I tried to use large C-clamp between the trans clutch arm and the Bowden Tube but there wasn't enough room for it to fit.

Come to think of it, I should just workout more!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

Every time I replace or adjust a clutch cable on a VW, I envision a nice leverage tool that would easily pull and hold that clutch arm forward about an inch or two so the cable would be slack for adjustment. I can still picture it in my head, but I have not made one yet. It's only been 30 years, what's the rush?
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

I used a length of 1/4" nylon rope. Wrapped it around the arm, then while facing up at the clutch arm, I wrapped the other end around my shoulder/elbow while my back was off the ground. Then I just leaned back and the weight of my fat self pulled the rope down and the clutch arm back. I screwed in the wingnut using my free hand.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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I used a length of 1/4" nylon rope. Wrapped it around the arm, then while facing up at the clutch arm, I wrapped the other end around my shoulder/elbow while my back was off the ground. Then I just leaned back and the weight of my fat self pulled the rope down and the clutch arm back. I screwed in the wingnut using my free hand.


That is a good idea. I suppose a ratchet strap of sorts would do the trick, too.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

Picked up an OG wiper switch from Campingbox. Cleaned it up a bit. All I need now is the time to install all my new electrical items.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

That wiper switch looks new. Campingbox always has quality stuff.

Just wanted to add that this tool only is to relieve tension on the arm return spring. It will not pull the pressure plate.
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I made this tool to pull the arm...while doing the nut.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

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That wiper switch looks new. Campingbox always has quality stuff.

Just wanted to add that this tool only is to relieve tension on the arm return spring. It will not pull the pressure plate.
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I made this tool to pull the arm...while doing the nut.
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Thanks for the clarification!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

Number of things...

Just before the my boys and I headed to Prado to camp I received the stickers for my yellow and black YOM plates.
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Speaking of camping, this was the first time my boys and I have camped and we did it at Prado and with my bus. Doubley or is that triplely cool!
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While at Prado I picked up the rear pressed bumper from Gerson.
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All around fantastic long weekend!!! Never enough time to enjoy the festivities.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:23 am    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

That is awesome. Congrats!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi Reply with quote

Bumber painted.
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Bumper fuaxed and installed. What a b**ch! It has been so long without a bumper that I need to get used to the look.
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