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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:06 am Post subject: VW Lupo |
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I just discovered the existence of the Lupo the other day. It sounds like a great little economy car but I have never seen one in Canada. They look very much like one of the many models of VWs we saw in Argentina that they have there.
Were they imported to the USA and does anyone have any experience with them? |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:39 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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The Lupo was never brought to the US through the dealerships but some have been brought in by individuals, they have not been federalized. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Ok, being a Canadian I have no idea what "not being federalize" implies other than parts will not be available through your country.
I was hoping for some feed back on driver satisfaction but there are other countries that I can get that from. Rumours have it that the diesel ones were capable of close to 100 mpg! |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Federalized meaning that the car & the drivetrain (drivetrain separately due to the fact that they are often used in multiple platforms.) were tested to comply with the emissions & safety standards of the vehicle’s year of manufacture. Each vehicle that a manufacturer wants to sell in this market must be tested for crash worthiness & the driveline must meet certain emissions standards. If this was not done then, technically, the car cannot be imported into, or driven on US roads, although a lot of cars seam to bypass this for one reason or another. Once in the country, there can be titling issues & even confiscation if the wrong official gets their panties in a twist. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:09 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Ah yes. Makes sense now. Thanks. |
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Rallyedude Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2009 Posts: 206 Location: Aylmer, QC
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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I got one in last year . A 1.0L 49hp 5spd . It's awesome! Not quick but super fun to drive and roomy ! I'm 6'2" and fit very comfortably. _________________ 85 2wd Doka ABA In progress
82 westy diesel under the knife , MTDi ,weddle gears |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Cool!
Pictures?
Is it a diesel? The one we have coming is the 1.4L gas engine, they couldn't find us a diesel. |
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Rallyedude Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2009 Posts: 206 Location: Aylmer, QC
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:11 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Not great pics but here it is along with my custom 2.5 stainless exhaust . The lowest torque 1.0L on the planet ! Still planning to do a 1.8t as time allows
_________________ 85 2wd Doka ABA In progress
82 westy diesel under the knife , MTDi ,weddle gears |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Nice!
So it is the 1.0L diesel then?
Is it right hand drive out of Japan or did you get it from Europe in left hand drive? |
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Rallyedude Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2009 Posts: 206 Location: Aylmer, QC
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:04 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Left hand drive out if Germany. It's a gas engine. Has the smallest fly by wire throttle body I've ever seen ! But strangely has two air filters for the engine ??? _________________ 85 2wd Doka ABA In progress
82 westy diesel under the knife , MTDi ,weddle gears |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:48 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Ours is coming from Japan - right hand drive - the Missus will be using it to deliver rural mail. We had a Dihatsu mini truck that she used for several years but it's 660 cc engine was not suitable for highway speeds and was pounding out valves. Right now she is using a Forester which works very well except for the fuel bill. Canada Post does not pay that well so we need to cut the fuel consumption.
Interesting about the dual air filters!
The black looks nice! Ours is coming in bright green, the drivers out here seem to need extra visibility help so the brighter the better! |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Our Lupo is in Canada now but the trucking company managed to get a rock in the rear hatch glass so now I have to find a new rear window before it will pass inspection.
Not proving to be an easy thing to find! |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:54 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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oprn wrote: |
Our Lupo is in Canada now but the trucking company managed to get a rock in the rear hatch glass so now I have to find a new rear window before it will pass inspection.
Not proving to be an easy thing to find! |
And there’s the downside of getting vehicles that aren’t imported into your country in large numbers. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:10 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Correct!
Unfortunately one cannot buy a right hand drive vehicle at the local car dealer and my wife uses it to deliver rural mail. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:43 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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However, you can find & import vehicles that are right hand drive versions of vehicles that are commonly available. Since you're in Canada, I'd be searching for a RHD TDI Caddy with a manual trans. To my understanding, Canada got the MK3/4 Caddies & the drivelines are Golf/Jetta.
Sooo hot.
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_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
However, you can find & import vehicles that are right hand drive versions of vehicles that are commonly available. Since you're in Canada, I'd be searching for a RHD TDI Caddy with a manual trans. To my understanding, Canada got the MK3/4 Caddies & the drivelines are Golf/Jetta.
Sooo hot.
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One of those would be good! I have never seen one in Canada though. Lots of them in South America.
The last car we imported for her was a Subaru Forester. My thinking was the same as yours that there are lots of Foresters in Canada so no issue with parts... Right? .... Wrong!!!
The serial number does not show up on any of the dealer's computors so they refuse to work on it or even order in parts. It's also not listed on the jobber's computors because the engine size is different than the ones that were sold here in that year. They were all 2.5 liter NA engines in Canada and this one is a 2.0 turbo. We found out that if you order engine parts for a '99 WRX you get the right ones but they still insist on a serial number and off we go on the "not a valid number so won't order it, we have to have the correct one" kick.
The auto wreckers were baffled too when we needed a drive shaft because even though the shaft overall length was the same the center steady bearing was 5" further back on this one!
Tires and shocks are about the only thing that isn't a hassle so far.
Everything these days is bassed on the VIN number, gone are the days that partsman could look at a part or the car and pick it off the shelf for you. If your VIN number doesn't match what they see... sucks to be you!!
Some days I wonder if her job is worth it! |
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MrPapageorgio Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2014 Posts: 27 Location: Surrey, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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There are 2 out here in BC.... A Lupo GTI and a 1.2 TDI.... Imported by the same guy |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:53 am Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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It would be interesting to get in touch with him and hear how it is going for him! |
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crukab Samba Chef
Joined: December 13, 2002 Posts: 6116 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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Rallyedude wrote: |
Left hand drive out if Germany. It's a gas engine. Has the smallest fly by wire throttle body I've ever seen ! But strangely has two air filters for the engine ??? |
Hey Aylmer Quebec, thats where I bought my Doka back in '02 !!
We rented a Lupo in Germany, seemed a bit gutless. _________________ Tom
My Pops:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604100&highlight=
I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
'11 Jetta Wagon |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: VW Lupo |
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crukab wrote: |
We rented a Lupo in Germany, seemed a bit gutless. |
It seems to me that they would be as they are not aimed at the performance market. They are an economy class car. Except the GTI that is.
I am totally expecting ours to be on the gutless side when it arrives. The Missus got a look at it the other day. The rear glass is in it now, waiting on timing belt kit and they seem to want to put all new brakes on it. Not sure if that is really needed... they are saying it is because the rotors are rusty and they would be from the car sitting. I can't help but think a couple quick 70 mph to zero runs would shine them up. It only has 56K miles on it...
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