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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos... Reply with quote

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I even think it is a 1938 car.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos... Reply with quote

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Interesting how the perspective and lens distortion seems to indicate that the IFA is smaller than the Beetle. In fact the F9 was designed to be a KdF-wagen upmarket challenger, and so was slightly wider and longer than the Type 60. The Beetle is 1539 mm wide nominally, the F9 is 1600 mm.

The Kapitän is a big car, but it is just 170 mm wider than the IFA at 1760 mm.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos... Reply with quote

Please, this is a DKW, not an IFA!
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos... Reply with quote

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Please, this is a DKW, not an IFA!


My bad, you are right. It is one of the first DKW F89s, with identical grill ribs, not alternately thin and thick like on later models. But they are based on the same car, and the overall width is identical, as far as I can see. For some reason, Wikipedia does not quote the width of these cars, but the IFA is 1600 mm wide.

My point being that the DKW F9 was developed specificially to compete with the Beetle, offering a slightly larger, better appointed, streamlined car with a sub-1-litre engine. The IFA F9 was manufactured in the DDR post-war, using original patterns and presses, while the DKW was reconstructed in BRD more or less to memory by the engineers who had worked on the F9, but were lucky enough to end up on the right side of the "Iron curtain".
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos... Reply with quote

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pastellgreen wrote:
Please, this is a DKW, not an IFA!


My bad, you are right. It is one of the first DKW F89s, with identical grill ribs, not alternately thin and thick like on later models.


It's a F91 "Sonderklasse," the successor of the F89 "Meisterklasse." The F89 had the alternating grill ribs, the F91 the identical ones.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos... Reply with quote

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pastellgreen wrote:
Please, this is a DKW, not an IFA!


My bad, you are right. It is one of the first DKW F89s, with identical grill ribs, not alternately thin and thick like on later models. But they are based on the same car, and the overall width is identical, as far as I can see. For some reason, Wikipedia does not quote the width of these cars, but the IFA is 1600 mm wide.

My point being that the DKW F9 was developed specificially to compete with the Beetle, offering a slightly larger, better appointed, streamlined car with a sub-1-litre engine. The IFA F9 was manufactured in the DDR post-war, using original patterns and presses, while the DKW was reconstructed in BRD more or less to memory by the engineers who had worked on the F9, but were lucky enough to end up on the right side of the "Iron curtain".



Here is a story of a 1939 DKW F9 Prototype recently found in Tallinn, Estonia:
http://heinkelscooter.blogspot.com/2016/10/a-second-dkw-f9-prototype-discovered.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos... Reply with quote

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A car from the district of Gross-Gerau, maybe even from Opel-town Ruesselsheim.
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