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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31361 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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57BLITZ wrote: |
Re-route the plug wires for #1 and #2 . . . they should go under the generator so as to avoid interfering with the throttle.
Sure looks nice in there!! |
The wires should go between the intake manifold and the fan shroud, under the generator. There are little clips available to hold the spark wires to the fan shroud, away from the manifold heat. Sometimes they are white.
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9756 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Nice work ladies.
You have done a fantastic job on your engine. And the car as well.
Regarding the engine. That little vacuum port on the intake manifold just below the carb flange needs to have a cap on it. Otherwise you're gonna have running issues.
Good Luck. _________________ I have learned over the years.
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 1265 Location: GILROY, CA
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Thank u guys...yes have clips will run leads under generator..searching 4 intake cap now...great pickup..only painting were fuel tank sits ..
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 1:08 am Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Engine lid on
Engine lid on..the trick I read & we used..get 1 side on & pivot 4 spring & other hinge.. |
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Back on Vw.
Problems problems.
Been trying 2 start 4 days please help
We primed oil pump so have compression
Got fuel to carb.
Think the problem is
30 pic 1 & SVDA....won’t start only crank.
Ordered a 009.
Will this work & start it?
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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I the first picture the distributor looks like it's not fully seated. Take the cap off and try to turn the rotor. Does it rotate? If so its not engaged in the drive gear. |
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Thank u..we checked & yes spring was bent so I wouldn’t seat..but fixed & no start.. |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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And check the wiring at the distributor. You should have hot from the key to the + side. Also your choke and idle cutoff valve to the +. The condenser should be on the - side by itself, or a tachometer.
Also the coil wire doesn't look like it's engaged very well on the coil either. |
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Thank u yes wires checked & pluged in ok.no idle cut with carb.. |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Ok if the wires are right, and the point gap set, you should be getting a spark. Take one of the plug wires off and hold it next to the block somewhere and have someone crank the engine. Does a spark jump from the wire to the block? |
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:56 am Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Wires tight..point gap good..no spark.. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:14 am Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Try a new coil or check the coil resistance if you are comfy with a Volt ohm meter _________________ .ssS! |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:34 am Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Ok time to break out the the volt meter. First check that you are getting 12v to the coil on the + side. Double check the wiring at the coil. Don't just dismiss this step because your "sure its right". Everyone messes up and hooks stuff up wrong from time to time.
If your getting 12v to the coil, again double check the coil wire. It doesn't look like it's right in the pictures. Take the wire off the distributor cap, and run the same test to see if you have spark that far.
Recheck the points gap.
Try another condenser. The new ones suck. Complete garbage. I ran through 3 of them in less than a year on a weekend driver. Now I'm using a old one stolen from a distributor core. No more issues.
Check your rotor. Did you forget to put it in? I've done that like 20 times after messing with the points..
Dwell should be around 48-50 degrees. Firing order 1-4-3-2.
Go through these steps, and let us know when you find.the problem. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Make sure your wire inside the distributor To the points isn’t touching any metal inside other than connector. If it grounds, no spark. _________________ .ssS! |
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:15 am Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Thank u every body 4 help
it started 4 a few seconds with new 009 distributor ..fuel only going 2 petrol pump..not sure if air lock.learning all the time..we can only use vacuum distributor with 30pict...won’t even start with advance distributor..wrong vacuum signal....fuel not getting from pump to carb now..
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 1265 Location: GILROY, CA
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:01 am Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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I used clear tubing when I started my eng on the test stand. Without fuel in the tubing and pump, it had a very hard time clearing the air. First take of the line from the tank at the pump, put it in a jar and blow air into the tank until the gas comes out into the jar. Then fill the carb with the squeeze bottle into the carb fuel line. Connect both fuel lines. That should be enough to run the eng for 30 sec or more, enough time to get all the air out of the lines.
If that does not work, try running line on output of fuel pump into a jar, crank the eng to see if fuel is coming out. DISCONNECT THE COIL WIRE TO TEST THE FUEL PUMP OUTPUT TEST!!!
Something may to be wrong with the vacuum distributor (keep the 009 for now), both types are the same at startup. Advance only comes on with RPM in 009 and vacuum when eng is running and it will run fine when not moving the Beetle. At startup wrong vacuum signal has no effect, only acceleration power while driving.
Yes, you are making progress. Keep the 009 for now and address the fuel pump/air in lines.
Be very careful with fuel around the engine while cranking, IF YOU SPILL FUEL WIPE IT UP, TAKE THE RAG OUTSIDE AND LET THE ENG DRY OFF BEFORE CRANKING.
I have an 009 on my engine and it works great, lots of power. Sounds like the air is not out of the fuel system or you have a bad fuel pump. I have a fuel pressure gauge at left of eng, something you could use to see if the fuel pump is working.
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Joannekay Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 274 Location: Brightwaters
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:30 am Post subject: Re: New engine build by ladies |
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Thank u so much Wayne 4 excellent advise..fingers crossed 2moro.. |
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