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pinetreeporsche Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2009 Posts: 752 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 7:26 pm Post subject: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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The light is permanently on, and the passenger side bag cover-plate portion of the dashboard is a little loose. Don't know if it's one of the two bags, or the computer. (I bought it, a '97 Winnebago, with the warning light on.) Anyone know how to trouble-shoot- incl what meters or instruments, etc will be needed? Apparently, Virginia inspection does not require the air bags to pass-- I failed due to a non-functioning horn, but no other failures! However, it's definitely time to get them regularized. |
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GMByers Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 642 Location: Retired in NW PA
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Have you tried having the OBD read for any codes?
May likely be the airbag clock spring in the steering wheel. _________________ And then there were two...downsized to 83 Doka &
74 Thing. |
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pinetreeporsche Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2009 Posts: 752 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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I had the codes run and both bags and the computer are faulty. I did get inspected all right because VA doesn't require them, but I need to get them sorted out. Can a VW dealership help out- or are there bag specialists. And I understand that used air bags are illegal to buy/sell/install. (Seems a shame that dying non-camper and non-weekender EVs go to their rest -or rust- with functional bags that I could use.) SO HELP - someone else must have been faced with this; what's the solution? |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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This sounds like a clockspring issue. It's highly unlikely that the bags themselves went bad _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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CdnVWJunkie Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2004 Posts: 1110 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
This sounds like a clockspring issue. It's highly unlikely that the bags themselves went bad |
I agree. I'd get a second opinion on this. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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If the computer was faulty, then you wouldn't be able to tell if the air bags were, unless the system has been deployed.
As said by others, get another opinion, have them clear the codes & see what comes back. A low voltage situation could have triggered the codes & if they're not cleared, then the system will retain them & show the light. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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pinetreeporsche Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2009 Posts: 752 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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My bad-- I omitted to tell you in my first Q posting that the E Van had suffered an accident at the drivers front fender and door, which set off at least the driver's bag. But the shop that sorted out the non-functioning horn for me so I could get inspected said codes indicate both bags and the computer need repair or replacement. I did talk to the only Eurovan speciality service and parts guy, Shane Penninger of Eurovan Life in Asheville NC, and he had no leads of those parts. Anyone know any other non-dealer Eurovan specialists I can at least phone and get advice from? |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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I have them. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Ah, the accident was a key detail. I would replace the clockspring, control unit and both bags. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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pinetreeporsche Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2009 Posts: 752 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Ah, the accident was a key detail. I would replace the clockspring, control unit and both bags. |
I would, too, if I could find them. The bags seem to be virtually unavailable,. If anyone has any secret path to some, please share it. The guy who ran the codes said they're available from Europe, for about $1500 each. That's why I chased down the NC used-Eurovan guy but he had nothing useful. Again: HELP! |
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gakali Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Being an OBD2 vehicle anyone with a full function scanner should be able to read the Airbag codes. Any shop should be able to do this.
It is possible that the van was repaired properly after airbag deployment and that the light is on now for something simple such as a clock spring failure.
If the module and both airbags were properly diagnosed as needing replacement so be it, but another opinion might be a good idea before doing anything. Seems unlikely to need all 3 parts at this point without taking a closer look. _________________ Why do it? Because you can.
1999 Eurovan
2003 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro
1992 W201 190e 2.3 Mercedes
2006 W220 S600 V12 Twin Turbo 5.5 Mercedes |
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pinetreeporsche Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2009 Posts: 752 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Major progress: Chris Dale, a real Eurovan specialist, the guy who runs import AutoWerks, just east of Raleigh NC, got everything worked out. [How many E-van experts are there in whole eastern US?! I'd say anyone within a reasonable distance of Zebulon NC should consider a trip there to deal with those problems the local guys can't help you with.]
BUT: The previous guy who said it was both bags and the module was wrong-- the bags were OK once a new-used module was transplanted in. Since the set of bags and module he had acquired for me cost a bundle as a set, I need to find a working module to fill out the two-bag-set he still has w/o module. [I can get a good portion of my cost rebated if I can make the bag-set whole.] OR BETTER- IF anyone knows a place that rebuilds/re-works these bag modules, let me know- let us all know. And: save a module, save a van! |
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Kombinut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2017 Posts: 4 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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I have a airbag light that stays on. VAG COM does not connect to the airbag module. I've read post of people suggesting a bad clock spring. Removed mine check with continuity tester all was good. Review wiring diagram, found one wire that connect to the module from the OBD2 diagnostic port. Which lead me to inspect the module directly, located under the plastic center piece in the foot well in front of the shifter. There I found radiator coolant had leak onto the module and corroded the connection. The number 9 pin was completely gone which is the wire that comes from the OBD2 diagnostic port. The drain for the HVAC system is located right above this module, So if you have a bad heat core then coolant fluid will find it's was down onto the module.
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gakali Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Kombinut wrote: |
I have a airbag light that stays on. VAG COM does not connect to the airbag module. I've read post of people suggesting a bad clock spring. Removed mine check with continuity tester all was good. Review wiring diagram, found one wire that connect to the module from the OBD2 diagnostic port. Which lead me to inspect the module directly, located under the plastic center piece in the foot well in front of the shifter. There I found radiator coolant had leak onto the module and corroded the connection. The number 9 pin was completely gone which is the wire that comes from the OBD2 diagnostic port. The drain for the HVAC system is located right above this module, So if you have a bad heat core then coolant fluid will find it's was down onto the module.
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What a mess.. But good job finding the problem! _________________ Why do it? Because you can.
1999 Eurovan
2003 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro
1992 W201 190e 2.3 Mercedes
2006 W220 S600 V12 Twin Turbo 5.5 Mercedes |
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Kombinut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2017 Posts: 4 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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I received my new used airbag control module today from ebay, plugged it in and no more airbag light! All is well again. |
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almond Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2021 Posts: 38
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Air bag warning light on all the time |
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Thanks this helped me find mine and I have the same problem |
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