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colorfull Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2018 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:03 am Post subject: Idle speed goes up when radiator fan turns on |
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Hi,
On my 87 Syncro, the idle goes up to 2000rpm as soon as the radiator fan kicks in. It goes back to normal when the radiator fan os not running.
Any idea why?
The van have had the AC removed by a past owner.
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colorfull Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2018 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Idle speed goes up when radiator fan turns on |
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Any clues?
So far I changed all the sensors (power steering, temp2, 02)
Everything listed in the Digifant manual checks out as well. |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17155 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Idle speed goes up when radiator fan turns on |
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Has all of the AC been deleted including the wiring? When the fan kicks on the load on the alternator should actually load the engine. I don't have a manual handy, but it is not uncommon for other vehicles to increase idle to account for load of ac compressor. It's a stretch, but maybe the vanagon air had a provision to tell the ECU the air is on and that is what is happening when the rad fan clicks on back feeding power into the AC wiring. The diagrams can verify the guess
Another possibility is the idle is at the edge of the spec that the IAV can handle
and maybe simply adjusting the idle speed would help. I would also check the TPS adjustment. _________________ ☮️ |
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colorfull Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2018 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Idle speed goes up when radiator fan turns on |
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Thanks Mark,
Yes the AC has been completely deleted, including the compressor and wiring.
You might be right about the idle being at the limit of what the IAV can handle, as it is right at 950 on cold starts but jumps to 1300ish after long drives. Adjusting it any lower makes the van hard to start when cold.
I will nonetheless verify the wiring diagram as well to see how AC and radiator fan interconnect.
Thanks a lot for your input!
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Has all of the AC been deleted including the wiring? When the fan kicks on the load on the alternator should actually load the engine. I don't have a manual handy, but it is not uncommon for other vehicles to increase idle to account for load of ac compressor. It's a stretch, but maybe the vanagon air had a provision to tell the ECU the air is on and that is what is happening when the rad fan clicks on back feeding power into the AC wiring. The diagrams can verify the guess
Another possibility is the idle is at the edge of the spec that the IAV can handle
and maybe simply adjusting the idle speed would help. I would also check the TPS adjustment. |
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Wolfsburg 92 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2020 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Idle speed goes up when radiator fan turns on |
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Hello Colorfull,
We have 2 vans with the same problem. Have you found what was wrong?
Francis |
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