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[Zundfolge1432]

Cam is a zero gear aftermarket Cofap, what threw me off was the 285number on the front.

Here’s the thrust bearing it’s seen better days

[wcfvw69]

Wow.. those bearings look like the oil had a fine grit mixed in it. Very dirty and gritty looking. It makes you wonder if the engine ever had the oil changed?
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[Zundfolge1432]

I’m about 99% positive the engine was on a sandrail or buggy used off-road because of the tri-mil type exhaust and pulley guard that was part of this package. Take apart any engine and you’ll see the clues and markers as to what level of care it received during it’s service life. That pinched bearing at #4 main sure didn’t help 😀

[Zundfolge1432]

Had another set of eyes look at this crankshaft, he operated a repair shop here in town late 70s through early 2000s, Dynabug VW. His findings agree with mine, damage to a crank journal is too severe. Odd as it seems #4 main cleaned up as did #3 main and #4 rod journal, the others probably would have but all it takes is one to mess up the plan and it did. As it stands this crank would make a nice candidate for turning to next undersize 20/20 but to set up and do one crankshaft would be cost prohibitive. Shop I worked at did batches of 25 or more at a time, that keeps costs down.

So I threw in the towel and went to the stash to find another crankshaft, it’s a well preserved std/std stock 69mm crank. I also found a nice set of balanced connecting rods and some lifters to use. So really things are looking up no need for cast cranks or hundreds of dollars in rods, lifters etc. We will concentrate on double checking all the measurements but still will be out all new bearings, gaskets and seals. Still not out of the woods on case evaluation either needs cleaning bolting together checking for warping,cracking, condition of main saddles, and also that nastiness on the sump area

Here’s a nice old donor std/std crank just needs cleaned and polished, it’s one of those things you save for a rainy day

Look real close you can see pitting, it’s to far gone for polish




Here’s what #4 looks like after a light polish

[scrivyscriv]

What's the plan for all of this stuff? Y'all building an engine or just making a thread on engine parts?
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[VeeDubWolf]

I'll second that, this'll be a good thread to learn from for my eventual build!
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[scrivyscriv]

Okay, so more or less a budget build for the experience. If y’all follow through all the way, this topic will be great for guys on the fence about doing a DIY rebuild or repair. I know it can be intimidating to get started! Perf/Eng forum is full of helpful guys but it’s a deep river and it moves fast. You need a thorough basic understanding to wade in over there.
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[sb001]

You all will have to be patient as zundfolge lives about 2 hours away so this thread will ebb and flow with my scheduling to get over there along with his time. Yes this thread would be a good building block experience, I've helped out on an engine build before on the 72 super I bought and sold but this one I want to do all myself including all measuring scoping and sourcing any parts zundfolge is not providing, the reason for my other thread about the short block kit is I wasn't sure what he had in supply already and/ or what he was willing to part with. If someone out there is starting at the same point I am it behooves everyone to point out that they will probably NOT have access to an experienced mechanic with a big stash of parts and they may need to compromise on some things to get in on the budget they have. Everyone scream and yells about buying better parts but it is what it is, and people including those yelling on my thread over there need to understand that everyone's situation is different (this goes double for people who post "THE END" after their comments over there as if they are the last word on anything, I let it go over there but that shit won't be tolerated here.) That said, I always try to source best quality parts I can and it also helps to have places like bughaus in my backyard.
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[Xevin]

This is interesting. What is the budget?
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[Xevin]

This will be fun to watch. Love this kinda of stuff. My “Budget build” has now become a game of “How far I can push the budget with Xatie and not get caught” I’ve lost track how many times I’ve rationalized $20 extra for a better part here and there. I’m going with “Ignorance is Bliss” approach to the budget. The many months of no progress because of of all our schedules and other obligations have taken the sting out. I think Thank goodness my buddy is teaching me and letting me do some work. Like you and Zundfolge
distance and schedules makes it a challenge. Just did some quick math on parts I’ve already purchased and looked at my list of parts and machine work I haven’t paid for yet . I’m in trouble maybe I won’t have the tins powder coated Looking forward to your build.
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Moderator note:
I removed a string of BS.
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[VeeDubWolf]

I didn't see it, and I thank you for that Everett.
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[Zundfolge1432]

So had a chance to better clean the case and look for trouble areas. Bolted up to check for warp. Took a few more pics along the way.

Look where some goober tried to pry it apart with a metal tool probably a screwdriver, also you see tool marks over by the cam this is more carelessness and savagery.

More ignorance evident here.

Here are two places along the bottom we’re you can pry carefully to separate case halves. Go slow don’t leave damage

Here’s a sharp piece of casting slag that’s been there since new, it will cut your finger like a knife, I’ll file it down

It’s always been standard practice to stamp the number of last align bore here under the oil cooler mount. This one says 1st over 020

This area along the back is a known crack place usually from oil galley plug

This area is another common wear place the cylinder tin digs into the case, look

Yes the big enchilada corrosion caused by water damage, looks shitty I’ll be making a devcon repair stay tuned.

Ear broken off for sled tin mount, very common.

Looking inside checking for visual signs of warp

Checking oil galley plugs

Six big nuts tightened down and look a Costco beer, wtf.

[Frodge]

Great thread! Where you explain that there is a pry area on the case. I see you have a screwdriver in between the “fins” and looks to be pushing against the case screws as leverage? Is this correct? Thank you.

[Zundfolge1432]

Have not found anything yet that would be reason to reject this case in fact it’s it’s first cut standard thrust which means it’s not pounded to death. So far it’s just been common areas of wear with a mix of rough handling and amateurish mistakes made during service... still moving forward next stop machine shop for some dimensional checks. It will be cleaned again at least two more times prior to build.

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[VeeDubWolf]

I've seen worse repaired, looks like it might just live yet!
Good tip on the prying points, IIRC aren't there overhanging lips at a couple points that can be tapped with a hammer (rubber/brass/wood/dead-blow) to help separation?
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