1967 Beetle: Correct Carb & Distributor

[thunderhead289]

Hello friends -
The lady and i are embarking on another beetle adventure.
we picked up a 1967 that has been parked since 1993 in a garage.

currently it has a 111-905-205 distributor with the only advance being of vacuum nature.
the carb is a pict 28 with only one vacuum port (vacuum advance hooked up)

iv seen mixed things about what carb for what year and engine size - is the 28 the proper size for a 67? im assuming the 67 is a 1500 engine, but i need to check engine code when i get home to verify - i believe im looking for an H engine code.

Im new to this, and want to do it right.
my other question is on how the oiling system works.
if i remember right, the air cooled engines have a bypass for the oil in how it goes to the oil cooler? can someone explain the routing to me? thanks a ton.

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[swharris]

[tonys1pr]

Correct carburetor should be a German 30 Pict 1 with a 105-1 stamp on the manifold flange.

Useful site for reference:

http://1967beetle.com/shop/

[gt1953]

You have the correct distributor. Carb is wrong.
Photo of the motor would be a real treat.
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[KTPhil]

If it was a European model, it might have had a smaller 1300 or even 1200 engine in it, and could have had the 28 carb originally.

[thunderhead289]

I verified tonight that it is indeed an H code engine. (1967 1500 - standard carb is pic 30)
I would assume that this means the carb is wrong.

I do have another one, i will have to verify what is is and check back with you all.

I know i have a pertronix ignitor 3 distributor somewhere here from our last beetle. am i limited by a carb with my timing curve? ie does the carb and the timing mechanisms have to match up a certain way?

I beleive the pertronix is a mechanical and vacuum unit.
if the carb i have is a 34 unit, could i run that distributor & 34 combo on the 1500 engine?

[tasb]

A 111 series distributor and a 28 PICT carburetor are a correct match, not necessarily for that engine. To be more accurate you need to include the letter suffix at the end of the VW part number on the distributor.

If you change to a 30 PICT series carburetor you will have to also change to a 113 series distributor. these would be a 113 905 205 K, M or T. There are a few others, these are the most common.

The SVDA Pertronix distributor can/should only be run with a 34 PICT 3 carburetor.

If you are looking for original look and performance stay with the 28 PICT and 111 distributor and spend your time, effort and money making sure they are working properly.

Yes, VW engines have oil pressure relief valves, later engines having two of the,m. There are many diagrams out there that show this probably better than a verbal explanation.
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[thunderhead289]

[tasb]

Parts for the 111 series distributors are not rare at all. You just have to know where to look and what to look for. Here's some help with the what portion of the equation:

Bosch short number:
points 1009
condenser 2069
cap 3001
rotor 4006
Search for NOS not new Bosch, NOS non Bosch have good quality as well. Vacuum canisters are still common NOS, but do a thurough search as the price varies widely.
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1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018

1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc

1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse

[thunderhead289]

[tasb]

You're giving me more credit than I deserve. My expertise is distributors, coils and VW minutia. Others will have to chime in on this question. You might want to start a new topic in the performance engine forum.
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1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018

1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc

1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse

[Frodge]

My understanding is that if you have a motor that is already work hardened, zinc is not really a huge issue. It is an issue with a new build though.