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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:17 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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Chris333 wrote: |
I didn't cut my spring plates at all. I cut away to place it would hit:
I also flipped the IRS arms to help the rear camber a little. |
nice i thought about grinding some of that away to.. i think im going to run the heim joint spring plates that bajas run.. the shop told me they bypass the spring plate stop.. what are you gonna do for upper shock mounts? |
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Chris333 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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I just finished the shock mounts today actually. Will post a pic later.
Working on Drag Link steering right now. |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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Chris333 wrote: |
I just finished the shock mounts today actually. Will post a pic later.
Working on Drag Link steering right now. |
awesome! im interested in the drag link steering as well.. was looking at some pictures from jer fab and seems like it would be best for a air ride car.. are you going to notch the tunnel for the tie rod? |
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Chris333 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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What I've seen is people add limiting straps so they don't raise the front up enough to hit, but I may have to notch it.
Also lift the gas tank up 3" and probably notch it as well.
Figuring it out as I go. |
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Chris333 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:15 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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On the last page here I posted some photos:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8779652#8779652
I also pie cut the front 3/4".
I'm no expert at all, but that set up you posted for the rear doesn't mount to the frame at all. It installs to the body. |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 1:08 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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nice that looks good! did you have to drill out the spindles where the tie rods bolt to? im assuming they are/were tapered from factory? ya that rear kit ties into the torsion housing, the trailing arms and onto the frame horns.. doesnt mount to the body of the bug |
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Chris333 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 9:30 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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I bought all new tie rods and a flip kit for the spindles. To install the flip kit you have to drill the spindles out with a 5/8" drill bit.
Once installed the first time I cycled the front up and down the toe out would change about 4"! Yikes. So I knew I needed the drag link. The link used Hiem joints with a 5/8" hole. So I just used 5/8" bolts.
I can go right back to the stock tie rods if I want.
BTW someone else who built a drag link told me they took it off because it got squirrely when raised up. I'm a ways off from driving my car so I can't really test it out. |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:27 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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Chris333 wrote: |
I bought all new tie rods and a flip kit for the spindles. To install the flip kit you have to drill the spindles out with a 5/8" drill bit.
Once installed the first time I cycled the front up and down the toe out would change about 4"! Yikes. So I knew I needed the drag link. The link used Hiem joints with a 5/8" hole. So I just used 5/8" bolts.
I can go right back to the stock tie rods if I want.
BTW someone else who built a drag link told me they took it off because it got squirrely when raised up. I'm a ways off from driving my car so I can't really test it out. |
good to know about the spindles.. ill be using heims as well.. and ya it seems like thats the struggle with air ride is finding a happy medium with the cycle changes and driving around.. but i figure when driving around for the most part ill be pretty low, and only air up high when going over a speed bump or steep drive ways so i dont think it should be to much trouble since i wont be driving at speed all the way aired up.. but like you said im still a long ways off from driving it so only time will tell.. a lot of people do it so it cant be to bad |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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a good buddy hit me up today said he had some bumpers and if i was interested.. couldnt turn it down so i went and picked them up!! a pair of early bumpers with overriders
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DAWGNME Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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Well Done!!! luvin it!!! Do it till ur satisfied _________________ Having Fun While Learning With My Build/Refresh/Just get it Driving already S*YTTT!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=648483&highlight=
The Rich Can Buy What Ever They Want.
But!
They Have To Beg For What They Really Need. |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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DAWGNME wrote: |
Well Done!!! luvin it!!! Do it till ur satisfied |
thanks man! for 150 for the pair id be dumb to say no lol... |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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also i got a question that goes back to the start of this thread about the motor size... the engine didnt have any numbers under the oil filler like most do.. but i did some digging and found some numbers under the heads... maybe it means something on the size of the engine? tried to look up vw engine codes but i was getting confused....
so at the start the number rears 17 (has vw logo) then 111 101 102E and above that it has a AS 41... does that say anything about engine size? |
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Chris333 Samba Member
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:11 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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i didnt see made in mexico any where yet.. but i think its def a replacement block cause there is no numbers stamped under the oil filler neck |
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Chris333 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:57 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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Well not "Made in" Mexico, but:
I don't think they were all made in Mexico, some say Brazil.
The AS41 means the block is 4% Aluminium and 1% Silicone. |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:01 am Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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Chris333 wrote: |
Well not "Made in" Mexico, but:
I don't think they were all made in Mexico, some say Brazil. |
def didnt say anything like that.. it just had the numbers only.. AS41 was by itself above all the other numbers |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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and in that picture where it says 23M mine just says 17 |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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patched up the hole where the stock side mirror was located tonight, as well as removed the gas tank so i can start prepping everything for when the new air ride beam gets here..
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Chris333 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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What is that hard line against the front firewall? |
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panScraper66 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: panscraper70s build thread |
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Chris333 wrote: |
What is that hard line against the front firewall? |
not 100% sure.. but its connected to that black container at the top of the pic and that was located on the passenger side inner fender in the trunk.. then it looks like it routes to the back of the car.. not really sure what that black container is for so i cant really tell ya lol.. some kinda emissions maybe? |
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