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RBEmerson Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 2108 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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I just ordered them. After all of excitement about the GW-EFI, this fell through the cracks.
Does anyone have info about H3 replacements? I found one but I have no idea how much clearance there is behind the inner high-beam-only lights. |
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Still looking for H3 LED's and experience, in a Vanagon, with the replacement.
So far, I've found low wattage (i.e., out equivalent to low wattage incandescent lamps) equivalent, but not even 50W equivalent or higher. _________________ Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change, and wine to accept the things I can't change. |
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phishnbtv Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2018 Posts: 3 Location: Morristown, VT
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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USPS strikes again with late shipping. I have all the parts to do my South African Grill with the exception of the headlight harness from Van Cafe. The headlight harnesses sold just make things easier to play and play correct? Is there any reason I couldnt just splice on some blade connections wrap them with some electrical tape and call it good? |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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The ones that I got came with two H13 to H4 adapters. You could use the H4 end to splice in easily enough. I personally like soldered connections with heat shrink tubing over them, but wrapped together and covered with electrical tape would work. |
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phishnbtv Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2018 Posts: 3 Location: Morristown, VT
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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Just a quick update now that I've had my grill and lights in for a little over a week and put around 800 miles on the van with them. I went with the lights from amazon that heidi85ho and ?Waldo? are running, I'm sure there are higher quality options out there but for the $90 or so I paid on amazon I couldn't pass them up. All in all I'm really impressed and they're a massive improvement over my old rectangular lights.
I was tight on time so I had to get the parts from a few different vendors to try and keep shipping costs reasonable. Grill and inners from Bus Depot, GW buckets from RMW, wiring harness from RMW, and LED lights linked in this thread from Amazon.
All in all I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them if you're looking for a big improvement over your stock square headlights. |
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RBEmerson Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 2108 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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FWIW, pulling the 9004's and dropping in LED equivalent in my square lights worked like a charm. I have aiming issues (much too low) but I also have the replacement aiming bits, too.
The remaining challenge is finding bright H3 replacements. I thought I'd found a winner until I read the output - 3000 lumens. Fail. _________________ Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change, and wine to accept the things I can't change. |
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RBEmerson Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 2108 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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Scrolling through eBay, I finally found some high output (burn the yellow stripe off the road) LED's. If I have the data right, the total draw is about 38 A???
Is that right or is there some jiggery-pokery to drop the load to something more rational. I have the relay kit, but I'm challenged to see how wish away 38 A. _________________ Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change, and wine to accept the things I can't change. |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:57 am Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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phishnbtv wrote: |
I went with the lights from amazon that heidi85ho and ?Waldo? are running, I'm sure there are higher quality options out there but for the $90 or so I paid on amazon I couldn't pass them up. All in all I'm really impressed and they're a massive improvement over my old rectangular lights. |
For clarity, the ones that heidi85ho are running and the ones that I am running are different. The ones I purchased are $10 less and have a higher lumen rating. I'm glad you like them. |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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I thought I'd post up a link to an Amazon seller that appears to be selling the same headlights that I purchased previously for a few dollars less. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074T7JS1L/ref=pe_58340_286803320_em_1p_1_ti
Amazon just sent me a coupon for 6% off for Jeep JK parts. I decided to get another set for my van that currently has the euro H4's, relays, and high wattage bulbs. When I got to the checkout screen, Amazon had also applied a promo. The promo was - $4.40. The coupon was -$5.28. Free shipping. The total cost to my door was $78.32! That's an amazing price for some amazing headlights. |
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elizer Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2016 Posts: 1469 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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I hope you paid $100 for the expert installation!
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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If a penny saved is a penny earned (actually a penny saved is 1-1/3 pennies earned due to taxes...) then I guess I paid myself accordingly. |
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the_last1 Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2015 Posts: 130 Location: Bay Area CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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?Waldo? wrote: |
I thought I'd post up a link to an Amazon seller that appears to be selling the same headlights that I purchased previously for a few dollars less. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074T7JS1L/ref=pe_58340_286803320_em_1p_1_ti
Amazon just sent me a coupon for 6% off for Jeep JK parts. I decided to get another set for my van that currently has the euro H4's, relays, and high wattage bulbs. When I got to the checkout screen, Amazon had also applied a promo. The promo was - $4.40. The coupon was -$5.28. Free shipping. The total cost to my door was $78.32! That's an amazing price for some amazing headlights. |
Waldo,
I picked up a set of these bad boys to replace the dim lights on my 1990 doka. I plucked out the old ones and noticed two other wires that are also there with the adapter, any thoughts on what those may be? _________________ 1991 Multivan
1990 Syncro Doka
The shallow end of the pool..is where the turds float |
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the_last1 Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2015 Posts: 130 Location: Bay Area CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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?Waldo? wrote: |
I thought I'd post up a link to an Amazon seller that appears to be selling the same headlights that I purchased previously for a few dollars less. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074T7JS1L/ref=pe_58340_286803320_em_1p_1_ti
Amazon just sent me a coupon for 6% off for Jeep JK parts. I decided to get another set for my van that currently has the euro H4's, relays, and high wattage bulbs. When I got to the checkout screen, Amazon had also applied a promo. The promo was - $4.40. The coupon was -$5.28. Free shipping. The total cost to my door was $78.32! That's an amazing price for some amazing headlights. |
Thanks for the info on the lights! SO far a great item, just curious how you secured them in, and also what wires you used? Mine came off a 1990 vw doka, trying to wire it all in.
_________________ 1991 Multivan
1990 Syncro Doka
The shallow end of the pool..is where the turds float |
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the_last1 Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2015 Posts: 130 Location: Bay Area CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:37 am Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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Figured it out! The original lights that still say "german republic distribution" on them had a built in headlight trim, so when I was going to replace them the trim piece was never there. Ordered them and then the lights will be dialed _________________ 1991 Multivan
1990 Syncro Doka
The shallow end of the pool..is where the turds float |
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RBEmerson Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 2108 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:27 am Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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RBEmerson wrote: |
I've got HID's in our '90 Westy. The HID's work, that is, they're suitably bright. But the high beam takes a while to come up to full brightness - 2-5 seconds?? Once up, dipped briefly, and back up, no delay. But...
The lamps have a finite life expectancy (shorter than LED's). They have a ballast and power unit each (Murphy's playground...). As a bailout, I bring along the halogens the HID's replaced - they're plug and play and I installed the relay kit before going to the HID's.
We have a major trip coming up in a couple of months. I really want to go with LED's. But we have square headlights (and always will - ahem...). Has anyone tried using simple LED bulb replacements? I have no sense of how much clearance there is behind the headlight buckets. Dimensions, anybody? |
Necro posting but maybe this is helpful.
In throw spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks mode, I went Van Again and bought their high/low kit. I slapped them in the outer square lights with halogens in the inner lights. All HID stuff is now gone. The LED's, in high beam, made the halogens look lame.
After some dithering, mostly over whether the fans behind behind 99.9% of all headlight LED's would fit, I pulled the trigger. The search was for sufficient LED wattage and emitter technology. Caution - some of these kits have ratings not better than a Maglite 2D flashlight. All ratings are doubled - each light is half the advertised rating - bastards.
With all LED's in and only close to right (bright spot on the garage door), I had some seriously bright light. As a side project, I replaced all of the aiming screws, etc. As part of prepping to head out west, I had the lights properly aimed. The results are quite satisfactory. The only dimmit danmit to date is from a pedestrian walking by while I was parallel parked to make a phone call. BTW, I did not shift to projectors.
The issue of "is there room for the fans" turned out to be not a problem after pushing a few things out of the way. The hi/lo's were a non-issue from the start. I have auxiliary high wattage left over from trying super bright halogens. IMHO, super bright halogens are not worth the effort now that LED's are common. _________________ Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change, and wine to accept the things I can't change. |
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4026 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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Thinking of going backwards here. I installed Relays years ago when I put big halogen bulbs in my van. I then removed them and installed HID and now have removed those and installed "Morimoto 2 Stroke 3.0" as well as "Morimoto 2 stroke H3" .
I am now wondering if the relays are unneeded and just another point of failure. Speak up, all opinions welcome.
They only pull 22W per bulb which is less than half of regular bulbs.
Stacy _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
Samba member # 14980
Call anytime number 650 722 4914 .
Keep Your van running and upkept tastefully for the love of the hobby.
Don't let your van end up in an "abortions" thread. |
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RBEmerson Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 2108 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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Nope - relay not needed. 22 watts is less than the OEM bulbs, let alone halogen bulbs.
But... if you've already installed relays, no need to take them out. _________________ Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change, and wine to accept the things I can't change. |
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llilibel03 Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2008 Posts: 767 Location: Redondo Beach California
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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Funny I come back to this thread years later and find it had posts just a couple weeks ago.
I'm considering going LED. I'm wondering how Waldo's and Heidi's lights have held up? Still happy campers? _________________ 87 syncro tintop
90 gl tin top
85 westy 2.0 tiico automatic (present) |
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RBEmerson Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 2108 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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FWIW, I bumped up to higher watts - more's always better! They're basically, no-name with specs that seemed to be a close fit to what I want.
I changed to the GW Euro-pattern lenses, and count the setup as a win. Truth is, I can't see staying with anything but LED's. No ballast issues, no burning out, no relays and high amp wiring. KISS and go LED. :) _________________ Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change, and wine to accept the things I can't change. |
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dkoesyncro Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2006 Posts: 983
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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I know they are pricey but what do folks think or have used the Osram LEDriving lights? |
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1988M5 Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2016 Posts: 674 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: LED Headlights, anyone try these? |
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16CVs wrote: |
Thinking of going backwards here. I installed Relays years ago when I put big halogen bulbs in my van. I then removed them and installed HID and now have removed those and installed "Morimoto 2 Stroke 3.0" as well as "Morimoto 2 stroke H3" .
I am now wondering if the relays are unneeded and just another point of failure. Speak up, all opinions welcome.
They only pull 22W per bulb which is less than half of regular bulbs.
Stacy |
Hey Stacy,
Brian here from Burlingame Independent VW-Audi. My handle here on "TheSamba" is from the 1988 BMW M5 I have that you swapped a windshield on, small world. You have a valid concern with the added components you added that allowed high current and stiff voltage needed to operate properly your old Halogen set-up bypassing the stock switch current wise. With the newly installed LEDs pulling way lower power and their large voltage window to operate properly, I'd say your safe to remove the modification for piece of mind of component failure. Remember though, the relay offloading of the original circuit does nothing but help with the exception of more connections and new components that could potentially fail. Less is more unless it's not. Everything can always be confirmed with a "Voltage-drop" test.
BK
PS Everyone take the plunge and learn/understand the "VOLT-drop" test while the circuit is in use, life changer. _________________ 1991 tin top GL
2002 Winnebago Vista. VW VR6 24V Eurovan front clip powered class C 21' RV.
Some BMWs. |
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