091 bell housing +bug starter hack help

[mungouk]

Hi
I have an 091 bell housing that I want to build into my bench run rig .
I seem to have a pile of bug starters, which have a shorter throw out .
Is there anything I can lash up to make it work ? It's only for bench running so doesn't need to be perfect !!
The gear misses the flywheel by mm's.......a few more mm and it'll work ..
I don't want to spend uk£150 on a 091 specific starter.
Any hacks ?
cheers
chris
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[mcmscott]

Machine down the starter surface
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[busman78]

Find someone to swap with, your 091 for their 002 bell housing.

[Dale M.]

Both mcmscot and busman78 have correct answer(s), anything else will just cause you grief.... The 091 is only odd duck in very big pond....

Dale
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[mungouk]

machining down the mating surface might be a goer....I'll see how much material I can get away with removing .
Thanks for the replys .
cheers
chris
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[Dale M.]

[busman78]

Or...just dig up a 12V automatic starter,

[mark tucker]

what ever you doo.....dont make a flywheel eater.

[jsturtlebuggy]

You would have to machine off 10mm for an earlier starter to connect with ring gear.
I looked at doing it, but it gets very thin and you may have to do some welding to build up the area before you machine off the surface.

And NO a automatic starter does not have enough throw for it to connect either.

Either find a 002 or modify a Bug trans to fit your application, it will be cheaper.
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[Dale M.]

[busman78]

late model VW buses had automatics, the automatic starter for 76-79 will bolt right onto that 091 bellhousing and work with any 12V flywheel from 200mm through the 228mm

[Dale M.]

[busman78]

No, did not miss it, starter for the test rig do not have to be new, just another alternative part that may be obtained used at a decent cost.

[jsturtlebuggy]

Busman, Have you tried using a starter for an automatic with in an 091 bell housing?
I, have and it does not have enough throw to work.
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Elrod Motorsports
Motion Tire Motorsports
Having fun with Dune Buggies since 1970
Into Volkswagens since 1960

[busman78]

No, but sold quite a few back in the day from stripped buses to the sand buggy owners who were hot to trot to get them. I have always had a good supply of regular starters, if the the automatic starter will not work then I apologize for the suggestion and revert back to my original suggestion of just swap for a 002.

[busman78]

No, but sold quite a few back in the day from stripped buses to the sand buggy owners who were hot to trot to get them. I have always had a good supply of regular starters, if the the automatic starter will not work then I apologize for the suggestion and revert back to my original suggestion of just swap for a 002.

[oldschool5er]

I for one can confirm JS is correct as I just went through this on an 091 with 091 bell housing and it did not work. I had always thought it would work also, but it did not have enough throw and I had to use a standard 091 starter.
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[AlteWagen]

Doesnt seem too expensive

https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting-and-charging/starter/duralast-starter/873232_624765_0
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[busman78]

Yep 091 starter, $64 is reasonable, plus $40 core, the shipping to the UK would be kinda pricey