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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

'Brass cup'

I used a brass or steel "finishing washer" from the local hdware.
Actually, I used three! They stack tightly, and I wasn't sure how long they'd last...couldn't find stock... If one wears thru, there's another one right behind it.
So far, so good.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

lil-jinx wrote:
Notice the left pizza slice is not filly seated,you need to remove them thick gaskets.
Busdaddy,is there a grommet or seal of some kind that seals where the warm air valve sit in the piece that is attached to the rear tin?

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Yes, theres a fat hollow donut with a separate lip that keys into the flange on the metal opening. Don't know the part number off hand, sorry.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

And yes - like busdaddy says your right side could be bent out. Bend it in to take out the slack!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

Thanks busdaddy,I'll have to track one of them down.
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

Does anyone have more photos of the plastic cup and spring for the linkage?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

Reviving this thread because we've got questions about the dashpot. We got these carbs running great and synchronized with the snail airflow meter.

The ratwell, Bentley, and other website with the synchronize procedures were a great help. That leaves me us with this last question.

What does the dashpot do?

Here's a photo of the dashpot on the setup in the bus currently.
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It's missing the spring and plunger.

Is it a crucial part other than what Ratwell says below? It doesn't really seem to serve a except for when the linkage returns to the idle position. Thoughts?

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5. Dashpot

Now you can screw back in the dashpot. Bentley gives a spec of 0.04mm as the distance between the plunger and tab when fully pressed in. Not only is this awkward to measure but not very useful because the dashpot wears and the carb linkage is complex.

The way I adjust it is by ear. Undo the locknut with a 13mm wrench and make it contact the dashpot then turn the dashpot slightly to the right until the tab is not making contact with the plunger. If for some reason you can't back off the dashpot all the way, remove the lock nuts and secure it to the bolt from the other side of the dashpot mount but do not tighten.

Now pull on the cross bar to rev the engine and let it go from the open position. Listen to the rpms drop and watch your tachometer and verify that the rpms drop back to the idle rpm instantly. This is your starting point.

Now turn the dashpot to the left until the rpm begins to rise. At this point back off the dashpot by 1 full turn to the right. Now pull on the cross bar linkage again, let go, and listen to the rpms. If the rpms drop as you let go of the cross bar and then rise suddenly the dashpot plunger is too close. Back off the dashpot another turn and repeat the rpm test. At some point the return to idle will be a smooth transition. It may feel too long or too short to you. When you are happy with the setting, secure the locknut.

Lose the temptation to throw away the dashpot. Apart from being a simple emissions device to deal with overrun, it has the added benefit that it helps keep rpms up while you shift gears. With the long shifter in the bus, this really smooths out the driving experience despite the nature of the manual transmission.

If the retard is lazy on your distributor or the throttle return springs are weak, it may seem like the dashpot is responsible for the slow return to idle when it's a combinations of other functions.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

I just did this today with Colin on my 73.

The ears with the ball joints on each carb may be bent.

The linkage pipe takes a spring and socket in the right side at the right carb. The linkage should not fall out when compressed. The dashpot should hit in the center of the tab-plate, and the air box cleaner should fit on the mount to give it slight clearance between the linkage pipe and the air box lip.

Here's what it looks like assembled, I can easily take any additional photos you may need:

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Here's the spring/socket for the right side of the pipe:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

Thanks xyzzy. We’re good with the linkage. My question concerns the dashpot on the drivers side carb and if the spring and plunger that’s missing from the dashpot on my setup is a big deal.

Also, it looks like your missing a hose that connects from the fan shroud to the charcoal canister?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

Hi there,

The dashpot was an effective way to reduce backfiring, mismatched shifts, jerky throttle release in first and second gear, and hydrocarbon emissions. It is essentially a mechanical version of a vacuum operated throttle positioner. You can read about those here...

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=641337

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual Solex Linkage Reply with quote

asiab3 wrote:
Hi there,

The dashpot was an effective way to reduce backfiring, mismatched shifts, jerky throttle release in first and second gear, and hydrocarbon emissions. It is essentially a mechanical version of a vacuum operated throttle positioner. You can read about those here...

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=641337

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Thanks Robbie. Info is much appreciated. -Dan
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