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Slow 1200 Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2004 Posts: 2103
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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just run IDAs, air filters wont fit so you don't have to worry about them |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5291 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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Hey Oprn. you must be up in the Hardwoods like me( maple syrup )
good Idea with the diaper but I doubt it 'Flows good?
on the dusty backroads up here we go with a foam Uni over the k&N 's both with oil ( trans fluid works in a pinch and 409 as the cleaner)
works great, you can pull off the foam and still have a clean gauze filter , clean foam one re-install I do this a cpl time before I need to do the K&N's _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:28 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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No madmike, unfortunately I am not but Box Alders are related and do work although it takes more trees to do the job and the flavor leans a wee bit toward molasses and the color is darker but it is still quite good.
Not really expecting a flow problem but my wide band will tell me pretty quick if there is one. |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5291 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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_________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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Olli from NJ Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 297 Location: Milton,DE
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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R2C filters are available. I just ordered a pair from them, call them directly.
OR10600B is the part # for the 3.35" high
OR10604B is the part # for the 6.00" high
"B" indicates "Black Hex" street
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swelchy Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2013 Posts: 134 Location: Douglasville, GA
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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FYI you can make your own filter oil for pennies on the dollar...
Buy a bottle of “mineral oil from a local drug store,grocery or walmart etc. and a pint/quart of denatured alcohol from a local hardware/paint store.... mix 2:1 2 parts oil to 1 part denatured and drop a few drops of your preffered food coloring into the mix.... add to a spray bottle and viola... tell store bought to kiss your hiney.... have a beer on me I just save tiu some dough.. k&n fikter oil is literally those ingredients.... _________________ 1969 Westy 1915cc 044 heads 94 bore 69 stroke scatCWcrank scat lifters C25 cam straight cam gears 1:25 ratio rockers CB weber idf 40's vintage speed sport exhaust. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26740 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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Olli from NJ wrote: |
R2C filters are available. I just ordered a pair from them, call them directly.
OR10600B is the part # for the 3.35" high
OR10604B is the part # for the 6.00" high
"B" indicates "Black Hex" street
Olli |
I hope for the best, but expect the worst.
Please let me know when they arrive, or if they don't.
I'd like ot order several sets, but I don't want to get burned, nor does anybody. |
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Olli from NJ Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 297 Location: Milton,DE
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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modok wrote: |
Olli from NJ wrote: |
R2C filters are available. I just ordered a pair from them, call them directly.
OR10600B is the part # for the 3.35" high
OR10604B is the part # for the 6.00" high
"B" indicates "Black Hex" street
Olli |
I hope for the best, but expect the worst.
Please let me know when they arrive, or if they don't.
I'd like ot order several sets, but I don't want to get burned, nor does anybody. |
I will post when they arrive. I've ordered from R2C directly before and never had an issue.
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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Mineral oil! I just happen to have 3/4 of a gallon of castor oil that I use for mixing model airplane fuel. That mixes nicely with methonal and is pretty sticky stuff.
Worth a try, thanks! |
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air-h2o-air Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2015 Posts: 579
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Boolean Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2012 Posts: 1712 Location: Stockholm
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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If the filter needs a filter, well - why not go with a good filter instead? _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
Build thread here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=529379 |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26740 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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why don't you tell us where to get one, smart alec |
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Wreck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2014 Posts: 1211 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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First photo is a little off topic but Oprn won't complain , It's also a model of a Canadian aircraft .
the other pics are the first attempt at a central panel filter . After making it I found an air filter/HP calculator . A that panel is a bit small only good for 140hp and chokes the engine over 1/2 throttle . mark 2 being made at the moment with twice the size filter .
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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Nice bird!!!
That is an interesting solution to an air cleaner! I assume that you fabbed that on up yourself? That would get the air filters out of harm's way on a buggy for sure!
I am pretty confident that all that dirt was picked up on the 1/2 mile of gravel road between our place and the highway and the air filters are right next to the rear tires. Bad design! Not much of a problem in the cars but these open wheel Buggies are another story altogether. |
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Wreck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2014 Posts: 1211 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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Sadly the vampire had to go ,to pay for other toys
The hats over the carbs I made a mold for and the centre section was just made from sheet and block balsa carved to shape and skinned in fibreglass , I then just hollowed out the balsa .
I'm mainly going to the trouble on the Ghia to reduce the induction noise (daily driver) , but also want to make one for the Baja bus because of the amount of dust pulled into the engine bay , I want to eventually make an airbox an get the intake from up the top of the vent area and clean air .
A former job was as a mechanic on gas pipeline construction mostly in very remote areas with few sealed roads . most of the vehicles had snorkels fitted to get the air intake up into clean air . the difference in how long the air filters lasted between the vehicles with snorkels and those with the stock air intake is huge . |
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Wreck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2014 Posts: 1211 Location: Brisbane
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Boolean Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2012 Posts: 1712 Location: Stockholm
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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modok wrote: |
why don't you tell us where to get one, smart alec |
Just about any paper element is way better at filtration. But you know that too. _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
Build thread here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=529379 |
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W1K1 Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2004 Posts: 4894 Location: Southern AB
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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the other pics are the first attempt at a central panel filter . After making it I found an air filter/HP calculator . A that panel is a bit small only good for 140hp and chokes the engine over 1/2 throttle . mark 2 being made at the moment with twice the size filter . |
interesting Wreck , I did the same for my 1904cc in my squareback. It is fed from the stock side vents and a scoop under the car. My K&N filter element was from a buick V6 application and works well. what I do find is almost no dirt or dust around the carbs anymore compared to the individual filters on the carbs.
I used carved pink styrofoam wrapped with the fiberglass for my forms, they melt out with acetone, easy breezy. _________________ http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/jim_martin_engine_build.php
1973 super
1965 squareback 1500E
1971 bay window westy- subi swap |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26740 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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Boolean wrote: |
modok wrote: |
why don't you tell us where to get one, smart alec |
Just about any paper element is way better at filtration. But you know that too. |
yeah, you may be right.
It is on my list to obtain the...not sure the name.... "air box pipes"? that originally went on these carburetors. I am sure they could be bought for very little money and probably would fit in a bug or a buggy, and that would allow the use of a central filter easily..........but, the R2c filters worked so well........I put it on the back burner. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Air cleaner dust leaks |
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Nope! As you can see from the picture the lid on the present ones are almost touching front and back now.
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