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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:58 pm    Post subject: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

I recently sourced a fiberglass rear package shelf base, and plan to wrap it in the same vinyl as the seats are covered with. The unwrapped fiberglass base slips in and fits really well with the rear window and seal in place.

I have two questions...

Once its wrapped, should the fiberglass base be secured to the car's sheet metal shelf with adhesive..or Can I rely on the two grille screws and the two seatback hook screws to keep it in place?

Can the wrapped base be installed without removing the rear window and seal?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

FL-Frank wrote:
I recently sourced a fiberglass rear package shelf base, and plan to wrap it in the same vinyl as the seats are covered with. The unwrapped fiberglass base slips in and fits really well with the rear window and seal in place.

I have two questions...

Once its wrapped, should the fiberglass base be secured to the car's sheet metal shelf with adhesive..or Can I rely on the two grille screws and the two seatback hook screws to keep it in place?

Can the wrapped base be installed without removing the rear window and seal?


I covered (upholstered?) the same shelf base you now have in two layers - a 3mm foam sheet that acts as a sound deadener and then the vinyl matching the seats' upholstery.

I didn't need to glue the shelf down. It fits very snugly and is held firmly in place by the windscreen rubbers and ventgrille screws at the back and by the seatback hook screws in front. If in doubt, you could use 3M automotive double-sided tape.

I didn't have to take the windscreen out to fit the shelf.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

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FL-Frank wrote:
I recently sourced a fiberglass rear package shelf base, and plan to wrap it in the same vinyl as the seats are covered with. The unwrapped fiberglass base slips in and fits really well with the rear window and seal in place.

I have two questions...

Once its wrapped, should the fiberglass base be secured to the car's sheet metal shelf with adhesive..or Can I rely on the two grille screws and the two seatback hook screws to keep it in place?

Can the wrapped base be installed without removing the rear window and seal?


I covered (upholstered?) the same shelf base you now have in two layers - a 3mm foam sheet that acts as a sound deadener and then the vinyl matching the seats' upholstery.

I didn't need to glue the shelf down. It fits very snugly and is held firmly in place by the windscreen rubbers and ventgrille screws at the back and by the seatback hook screws in front. If in doubt, you could use 3M automotive double-sided tape.

I didn't have to take the windscreen out to fit the shelf.


Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

Is there any one making those fiber glass shelf bases?

Any pics on how it looks?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

nize wrote:
Is there any one making those fiber glass shelf bases?

Any pics on how it looks?


Got mine from Jerry @ http://www.karmannghia.com.au/

I havent wrapped it in vinyl yet, but if fits very nicely out of the box.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

You could get a piece of ABS from someplace like Home Depot and cut it to fit.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

FL-Frank wrote:
nize wrote:
Is there any one making those fiber glass shelf bases?

Any pics on how it looks?


Got mine from Jerry @ http://www.karmannghia.com.au/

I havent wrapped it in vinyl yet, but if fits very nicely out of the box.


I forgot to mention that the foam I used had a heatshield built in.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

Somebody by the name of Jim asked for details of shipping our Rear parcel shelf mat to the US
I've tried to reply but my email just bounces back and I have no address to send to

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

56cpe wrote:
Somebody by the name of Jim asked for details of shipping our Rear parcel shelf mat to the US
I've tried to reply but my email just bounces back and I have no address to send to

Regards Jerry
KG Co Australia


You have a PM Jerry. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:25 am    Post subject: 56cpe Reply with quote

Jerry, I was the one who sent the message and just sent you a pm.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

I have a '69 hardtop. I replaced the headliner (white) over 25 years ago. I don't remember replacing the parcel shelf covering, but it looks like black perforated headliner material.

So my question is, what color is the parcel shelf supposed to be - black to match the seats, or white to match the headliner? What is the correct material? Plastic? Fiberglass? How do you remove the chrome trim on the front edge?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

dont_panic wrote:
I have a '69 hardtop. I replaced the headliner (white) over 25 years ago. I don't remember replacing the parcel shelf covering, but it looks like black perforated headliner material.

So my question is, what color is the parcel shelf supposed to be - black to match the seats, or white to match the headliner? What is the correct material? Plastic? Fiberglass? How do you remove the chrome trim on the front edge?

Thanks,


Hans


As I recall the Alum. trim piece is crimped/pinched into place (on each end). Matching the seat color would probably make more sense. Originally it was just vinyl covered thin board.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

For reference for the wider audience who may stumble on this thread here is a picture on my one from Jerry. Bought a couple of years ago. Took it out of the wrapper this morning to see how well it fits.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


And here it is resting in place. A perfect fit it would seem.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Colour is light green to match door cards and seat upholstery.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Rear package shelf question Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
dont_panic wrote:
I have a '69 hardtop. I replaced the headliner (white) over 25 years ago. I don't remember replacing the parcel shelf covering, but it looks like black perforated headliner material.

So my question is, what color is the parcel shelf supposed to be - black to match the seats, or white to match the headliner? What is the correct material? Plastic? Fiberglass? How do you remove the chrome trim on the front edge?

Thanks,


Hans


As I recall the Alum. trim piece is crimped/pinched into place (on each end). Matching the seat color would probably make more sense. Originally it was just vinyl covered thin board.

Regarding the color, keep in mind that anything other than black will cast a distracting and potentialy dangerous reflection on the back window.

You wouldn't want to bend up that pretty but functionally rather delicate chrome rear bumper by backing into something that you couldn't see because of a reflection on the rear window. Smile
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