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Tcash
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Just in case you do not have a Bentley.
Bus service manual+Bus repair manuals
Which I know you do, because any self respecting Bus owner would.
Two fluids can leak from that area
Engine oil = Flywheel seal and O-ring or Oil gallery plugs
Trans. fluid = Input shaft seal
Good luck
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Tram
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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Just in case you do not have a Bentley.
Bus service manual+Bus repair manuals
Which I know you do, because any self respecting Bus owner would.
Two fluids can leak from that area
Engine oil = Flywheel seal and O-ring or Oil gallery plugs
Trans. fluid = Input shaft seal
Good luck
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Now there's an oxymoron for ya...
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Tcash
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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| What? You can be a self respecting and own a Bus too! |
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SGKent 
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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| What? You can be a self respecting and own a Bus too! |
Dear Bob, I used to be a self-respecting VW bus owner. Somedays I questions my sanity due to the cost of ownership - you know wife complaining I was always in the garage working on it, but all in all I felt pretty good about things. Last week I imagined there was a rumble in my throw out bearing so the VW KB came to mind where I could drill a hole to get rid of the problem. I drilled the hole in the proper place and sprayed the sealed bearing hoping that the seal would leak grease in but not out. The excess must have gotten into the clutch because it now slips and chatters. This makes me question why I did this, and I no longer respect myself. What do I do? Sincerely, Fred Whackleshammer.
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Tram
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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| Tcash wrote: |
| What? You can be a self respecting and own a Bus too! |
Yes, you CAN, but you MAY not. 
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Bleyseng
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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Plastic facing ring? Where can I buy this part?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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| Tcash wrote: |
| What? You can be a self respecting and own a Bus too! |
Dear Bob, I used to be a self-respecting VW bus owner. Somedays I questions my sanity due to the cost of ownership - you know wife complaining I was always in the garage working on it, but all in all I felt pretty good about things. Last week I imagined there was a rumble in my throw out bearing so the VW KB came to mind where I could drill a hole to get rid of the problem. I drilled the hole in the proper place and sprayed the sealed bearing hoping that the seal would leak grease in but not out. The excess must have gotten into the clutch because it now slips and chatters. This makes me question why I did this, and I no longer respect myself. What do I do? Sincerely, Fred Whackleshammer. |
The OP did you a disservice by not posting all of the white papers on this, clearly that is the drain hole. The fill hole is on the top and upon filling said
chamber with lubricant, one would convert dry clutch into wet clutch.
Various tryouts of lubes may procure a reasonable conversion of said wet clutch. Kinda like the old adage of fill rinse drain repeat.
Greasyknucklehead
PS, since crappy Chinese’s T/O bearing are the norm, revamping the thought process on this May seed new ideas of innovation in vintage t/o bearings.
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SGKent
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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The OP did you a disservice by not posting all of the white papers on this, clearly that is the drain hole. The fill hole is on the top and upon filling said
chamber with lubricant, one would convert dry clutch into wet clutch.
Various tryouts of lubes may procure a reasonable conversion of said wet clutch. Kinda like the old adage of fill rinse drain repeat.
Greasyknucklehead
PS, since crappy Chinese’s T/O bearing are the norm, revamping the thought process on this May seed new ideas of innovation in vintage t/o bearings. |
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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| There was just a thread last week showing a redesigned throwout bearing. Maybe it will prove to be better than what has been available for a while. |
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timvw7476
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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| Bleyseng wrote: |
| Plastic facing ring? Where can I buy this part? |
It came bonded to some T/O bearings, turns yellow/translucent over time.
It was supposed to act like a 'cushion' between the fingers & bearing face.
It presented a convex face to the finger ends.....sounds insane right? more
debris to find at clutch change time...(the only one I ever saw was intact, but
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Tcash
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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| Tcash wrote: |
| What? You can be a self respecting and own a Bus too! |
Yes, you CAN, but you MAY not. |
Notice I said You can be!
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| There was just a thread last week showing a redesigned throwout bearing. Maybe it will prove to be better than what has been available for a while. |
That would be great. I'd like to see one with a grease fitting. Things used to last forever when they where serviceable. |
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cellobus1
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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Wow thankfully this is a recent thread and the dust hasn't settled all the way yet.
I have my motor out to replace a flywheel seal, and I took the throw-out bearing off. I'm not sure why at this point, it's fine. However, when putting it back on, the left clip and spring broke off. I'm not sure if broke is the right word, perhaps it's a loose fit anyway. I was able to reassemble it, but I was just wondering if the clips are supposed to be removable. The left side is a bit looser than the right side.
TIA,
Andy
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Tcash
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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Wow thankfully this is a recent thread and the dust hasn't settled all the way yet.
I have my motor out to replace a flywheel seal, and I took the throw-out bearing off. I'm not sure why at this point, it's fine. However, when putting it back on, the left clip and spring broke off. I'm not sure if broke is the right word, perhaps it's a loose fit anyway. I was able to reassemble it, but I was just wondering if the clips are supposed to be removable. The left side is a bit looser than the right side.
TIA,
Andy |
Buy new clips.
Note there is a Left and a Right
http://www.busdepot.com/113141177c
http://www.busdepot.com/113141178c |
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kreemoweet
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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The clips can be pried off the bearing fairly easily, but they shouldn't be "loose". The wire part needs to be able to swivel, of course, but
the grip of the sheet metal part should be fairly snug. You can probably tighten up the fit by removing the clip and squeezing the sides
together a little closer with pliers. They are probably loose because of overly aggressive removal technique.
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cellobus1
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Transmission hole to Lubricate throw out bearing |
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I decided to replace the throwout bearing. My FLVWPS had one in stock and it's about 7 blocks from my house. The guy's name is Ron Reagan, I kid you not. He didn't think I should try to run the old one, and I figured, wtf, it'll be $20 well spent. I'd hate to have to pull the motor AGAIN for something so replaceable.
Thanks!
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