which would you restore 1967 or 1964 |
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mainebeetleguy Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2018 Posts: 1 Location: Sullivan Maine
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:09 am Post subject: Not sure what to do - restore 1967 or 1964? |
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I have a 1967 and a 1964 vw beetle and together I have one car but I don't know which is the more desirable year. I have put a lot of work into the 1964 already but the body of the 1967 looks better.. the down side about the 1967 is I will have to cut out the heater channels and the front fire wall and replace those and I would have to put it on the chassis of the 1964 since I did the floors on that one already.
help Ideas??? |
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panicman Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2290 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do. |
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Unless you are really into 67s, Id go with the 64. I personally prefer the earlier bugs. Also, you would wind up with a body-matches-pan, which is almost always strongly desired. Sounds like it will also reduce your time and money to stick with the 64. _________________ Plate of shrimp |
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scottyrocks Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2016 Posts: 2666 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do. |
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I prefer the smaller side windows of the '64 and older. Unless the '67 was in much better shape, I'd go with the '64. _________________ If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them on some level there's no rational grounds for it.
D. Tartt, 'The Goldfinch' |
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pondoras box Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 1227 Location: Eerie PA
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do. |
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I would always keep a matching pan and body together if at all possible, in fact I generally wont buy a mismatched car unless its cheap and I get titles to both numbers. State of Pennsylvania will inspect any cars being titled coming from out of state, you must has verifiable VIN's in two locations.
67's are cool with the one year only stuff but the thick post cars will always be more desirable overall. If the 64 is a sunroof car its a one year only car as well, thick post and steel sunroof. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do. |
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scottyrocks wrote: |
I prefer the smaller side windows of the '64 and older. |
'64 was a transitional year, it might have the bigger windows. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do. |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
scottyrocks wrote: |
I prefer the smaller side windows of the '64 and older. |
'64 was a transitional year, it might have the bigger windows. |
First I ever heard this. Got a VIN produced before August 1964 with big windows? _________________
EverettB wrote: |
I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
FU#5 |
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do. |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
scottyrocks wrote: |
I prefer the smaller side windows of the '64 and older. |
'64 was a transitional year, it might have the bigger windows. |
... '64 is a transitional year, but IS the last year for smaller glass - larger glass (definitely) started with the 1965 models... Some guys love the 1967s... I too, just like the older VWs.
... never made any difference to me weather numbers matching - am more into function. _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
All super-heroes, wear a MASK |
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67 Sunroof Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2014 Posts: 1836 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do - restore 1967 or 1964? |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:29 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do. |
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ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
TDCTDI wrote: |
scottyrocks wrote: |
I prefer the smaller side windows of the '64 and older. |
'64 was a transitional year, it might have the bigger windows. |
... '64 is a transitional year, but IS the last year for smaller glass - larger glass (definitely) started with the 1965 models... Some guys love the 1967s... I too, just like the older VWs.
... never made any difference to me weather numbers matching - am more into function. |
Without provenance, numbers matching isnt worth much. Relevant for a ground up, NOS restoration, otherwise just a negotiation point _________________ .ssS! |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do - restore 1967 or 1964? |
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I vote for simplicity sake to keep pan and body numbers matching. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. - Michael Caine |
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Redlines Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2009 Posts: 168 Location: Fredonia, NY
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do - restore 1967 or 1964? |
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Not sure why the samba doesn't categorize the 67 as a later model bug. After all, it's 12 v and has the newer headlight style. Yes, it is a swing axle but so does a 68! To me it's a later model! Stick with the 64. I'm not a purist cuz both my bugs are frankensteins but I really like the earlier traditional bug look! |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do - restore 1967 or 1964? |
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Most VW enthusiasts seem to categorize the 67 with earlier models, not just the Samba. Always been this way as far as I remember. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. - Michael Caine |
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Redlines Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2009 Posts: 168 Location: Fredonia, NY
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do - restore 1967 or 1964? |
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Yes, you are correct Sir!! It's just my personal preference! |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Not sure what to do - restore 1967 or 1964? |
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Redlines wrote: |
Not sure why the samba doesn't categorize the 67 as a later model bug. After all, it's 12 v and has the newer headlight style. Yes, it is a swing axle but so does a 68! To me it's a later model! Stick with the 64. I'm not a purist cuz both my bugs are frankensteins but I really like the earlier traditional bug look! |
Bumpers and taillights are obvious from the outside, 12V isn't. On the inside, no plastic dash. Euro '67s still had the glass-covered headlights, too. So it's "the last of the earlies" in my book. |
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