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Bad bug Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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[quote="fivelugshortaxle"][quote="Bad bug"]
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Yes, running all of the tins and flaps. Stainless steel sidewinder 1 5?8 from AA. The exhaust fit was perfect and I don't have to take off the muffler to get to the 1 and 2 side valve cover like some do. Motor is running very well and very cool. Head temps get up to 250 very quickly and level off. I haven't really flogged the motor yet. I still have Amsoil break in oil in it to seat the rings. I'll be home this week and will be taking it on a quick little run to seat the rings, dump the break in oil and put in Amsoil Z rod 10 30....then I'll open it up some and see what it does |
I bought the 65 - 70 degree thermostat bellows for my engine. I can't wait to start the buildup. Who did you purchase your exhaust from. |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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Brian_e wrote: |
Good work finally getting it going.
Now quit babying it around and get after it to seat the rings. Sooner the better. After my cam break-in and initial timing/carb sync, I hit the closest long hill. Mine is 3 miles away. Full bore to the top, whip around and let it compression brake on the way down, flooring it once in a while. Then whip around at the bottom and head back up. My hill is about 2 miles long, pretty steep. I usually do this 3-4 times depending on traffic and outside temps. It needs to get good and hot. I have never had a problem seating the rings with this procedure, and I rarely have a any form of excess crankcase pressure.
Brian |
Actually just did that on one of the back country roads near my house. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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[quote="Bad bug"][quote="fivelugshortaxle"]
Bad bug wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Yes, running all of the tins and flaps. Stainless steel sidewinder 1 5?8 from AA. The exhaust fit was perfect and I don't have to take off the muffler to get to the 1 and 2 side valve cover like some do. Motor is running very well and very cool. Head temps get up to 250 very quickly and level off. I haven't really flogged the motor yet. I still have Amsoil break in oil in it to seat the rings. I'll be home this week and will be taking it on a quick little run to seat the rings, dump the break in oil and put in Amsoil Z rod 10 30....then I'll open it up some and see what it does |
I bought the 65 - 70 degree thermostat bellows for my engine. I can't wait to start the buildup. Who did you purchase your exhaust from. |
AA _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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jason wrote: |
180 to get the condensation out. There are many things that could effect it. This part is speculative from me but the older cars dont have a vacuum pump. Do you know what happens to water in a vacuum?
You need to change your oil if you have 93000 miles on it. |
Warmer day today. 80
Took it on a longer run and temps hit 180....fan turned on. Oil got to almost 190 before the fan took effect. It's running fine. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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mark tucker wrote: |
should already of had the 3rd oil&filter in it....if it were mine. & I like 170 degrees. |
Hahaha...I'm out of town. Working a contract in California. I've only had a little bit of time to work on it the couple of times I've come home. In town now because I have my inprocessing for my new full time job here in Oregon tomorrow morning. Still have the 2nd oil change of break in oil in it because I've only driven it about 30 miles or so. Just took it out and flogged it a bit to seat the rings. Oil hit 180 and the fan turned on and kept it under 190. Head temps hit the 290's. I'm extremely happy with the motor. Looking forward to getting my magnaspark back from cb...that thing is smooth when it works. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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Brian_e wrote: |
Good work finally getting it going.
Now quit babying it around and get after it to seat the rings. Sooner the better. After my cam break-in and initial timing/carb sync, I hit the closest long hill. Mine is 3 miles away. Full bore to the top, whip around and let it compression brake on the way down, flooring it once in a while. Then whip around at the bottom and head back up. My hill is about 2 miles long, pretty steep. I usually do this 3-4 times depending on traffic and outside temps. It needs to get good and hot. I have never had a problem seating the rings with this procedure, and I rarely have a any form of excess crankcase pressure.
Brian |
This thing has grunt...pulls hard in 4th up hills. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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Chased a ticking noise that went away when #2 spark plug was pulled. You'll never guess what all I did and looked for. Exhaust leak. On a positive note, rod bearing look great. Chambers show good mixture. Thorsten Pieper took steel lifters and SLR cam look awesome. Cam still looks new out of the box. Anyway, used shitty exhaust gaskets that I'll never use again. Put copper on it now. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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Dan Ruddock Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2012 Posts: 3594 Location: Sarasota, in my adopted state of Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Brian_e wrote: |
Good work finally getting it going.
Now quit babying it around and get after it to seat the rings. Sooner the better. After my cam break-in and initial timing/carb sync, I hit the closest long hill. Mine is 3 miles away. Full bore to the top, whip around and let it compression brake on the way down, flooring it once in a while. Then whip around at the bottom and head back up. My hill is about 2 miles long, pretty steep. I usually do this 3-4 times depending on traffic and outside temps. It needs to get good and hot. I have never had a problem seating the rings with this procedure, and I rarely have a any form of excess crankcase pressure.
Brian |
This thing has grunt...pulls hard in 4th up hills. |
All that grunt is not just the cam, the heads are also a large part of it. Also who says 48mm carbs can’t have a strong low end.
Dan |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9772 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Chased a ticking noise that went away when #2 spark plug was pulled. You'll never guess what all I did and looked for. Exhaust leak. On a positive note, rod bearing look great. Chambers show good mixture. Thorsten Pieper took steel lifters and SLR cam look awesome. Cam still looks new out of the box. Anyway, used shitty exhaust gaskets that I'll never use again. Put copper on it now. |
Wait.
Am I reading this right?
You took apart a good running engine just to see if everything was wearing in correctly?
Dude I understand that you have time on your hands with your work schedule.
But, why not just build a solid engine ( and you have done that) and just drive the car for a while?
I don't get this line of thinking. But hey it's a hobby, right? _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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jpaull Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 3466 Location: Paradise, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Chased a ticking noise that went away when #2 spark plug was pulled. You'll never guess what all I did and looked for. Exhaust leak. On a positive note, rod bearing look great. Chambers show good mixture. Thorsten Pieper took steel lifters and SLR cam look awesome. Cam still looks new out of the box. Anyway, used shitty exhaust gaskets that I'll never use again. Put copper on it now. |
Wait.
Am I reading this right?
You took apart a good running engine just to see if everything was wearing in correctly?
Dude I understand that you have time on your hands with your work schedule.
But, why not just build a solid engine ( and you have done that) and just drive the car for a while?
I don't get this line of thinking. But hey it's a hobby, right? |
I think hes saying he had a ticking noise, thought it was something internal so he pulled the engine out and complete teardown by mistake cause it was just a exhaust leak. |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Chased a ticking noise that went away when #2 spark plug was pulled. You'll never guess what all I did and looked for. Exhaust leak. On a positive note, rod bearing look great. Chambers show good mixture. Thorsten Pieper took steel lifters and SLR cam look awesome. Cam still looks new out of the box. Anyway, used shitty exhaust gaskets that I'll never use again. Put copper on it now. |
Wait.
Am I reading this right?
You took apart a good running engine just to see if everything was wearing in correctly?
Dude I understand that you have time on your hands with your work schedule.
But, why not just build a solid engine ( and you have done that) and just drive the car for a while?
I don't get this line of thinking. But hey it's a hobby, right? |
No, you're not reading it right. I certainly didn't take the motor apart...just a cylinder head taken off to get to a wrist pin and rod. When I did that I could see signs that everything was fine. I freaked, never heard an exhaust leak like that. I also took the rocker assembly on that side off and double check it. Checked rocker arm cups...pushrods. Sounded metallic...but hey, I'm getting older and the ears aren't what they used to be. Motor is already back together....simply cleaned mating surfaces of both cylinders and resealed with fresh sealant. Torqued head down and the rest is history. Still a good running motor....only now it has copper exhaust gaskets and no exhaust leak ....and not those two metal sided gaskets that AA sent with the sidewinder.
I was basically poking fun at myself for freaking when there was no need. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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jpaull wrote: |
67rustavenger wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Chased a ticking noise that went away when #2 spark plug was pulled. You'll never guess what all I did and looked for. Exhaust leak. On a positive note, rod bearing look great. Chambers show good mixture. Thorsten Pieper took steel lifters and SLR cam look awesome. Cam still looks new out of the box. Anyway, used shitty exhaust gaskets that I'll never use again. Put copper on it now. |
Wait.
Am I reading this right?
You took apart a good running engine just to see if everything was wearing in correctly?
Dude I understand that you have time on your hands with your work schedule.
But, why not just build a solid engine ( and you have done that) and just drive the car for a while?
I don't get this line of thinking. But hey it's a hobby, right? |
I think hes saying he had a ticking noise, thought it was something internal so he pulled the engine out and complete teardown by mistake cause it was just a exhaust leak. |
Exactly what I was saying except it wasnt a complete teardown...just a cylinder head an rod check. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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Dan Ruddock wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Brian_e wrote: |
Good work finally getting it going.
Now quit babying it around and get after it to seat the rings. Sooner the better. After my cam break-in and initial timing/carb sync, I hit the closest long hill. Mine is 3 miles away. Full bore to the top, whip around and let it compression brake on the way down, flooring it once in a while. Then whip around at the bottom and head back up. My hill is about 2 miles long, pretty steep. I usually do this 3-4 times depending on traffic and outside temps. It needs to get good and hot. I have never had a problem seating the rings with this procedure, and I rarely have a any form of excess crankcase pressure.
Brian |
This thing has grunt...pulls hard in 4th up hills. |
All that grunt is not just the cam, the heads are also a large part of it. Also who says 48mm carbs can’t have a strong low end.
Dan |
Yep ..smaller valves than the super pros...less port volume, more speed. Better for low rpm power and matches the cam.These 48' have smaller ventures than what was in the 45's also. 37mm vs 38 _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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Tume on the 2332 is almost there. Right now it has 62.5 idles 165 mains and 200 airs. Plugs show a slight rich condition at idle.....they look rich after idling it they look perfect after a wide open throttle AMD immediate shut off. Will be putting 60 idles in as soon as I get back home in a couple of weeks. Will be following John's advice and running the 60 idles for a couple hundred miles. They'll either be perfect or I'll end up with 58 idles.
Motor is impressive to say the least. Has torque from idle all the way to 6 grand. Feels like a tad of a drop off around 6400. Nice driver. Anybody want to hear it I posted a crappy cell phone video on my Facebook page
Christother Wesley Roberts.....I'll get a better video up when I get home. I'll tape my cell up to record better and I'll make a couple different runs to show the power and response of this motor. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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_________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:28 am Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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Here's a short vid I recorded on a short 20 something mile cruise in Oregon. about 15 miles into it. Sorry for the cell phone vid....part way through I turned the phone sideways. Don't get dizzy
https://youtu.be/RuAgYxjsnyI _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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clonebug Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4028 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Here's a short vid I recorded on a short 20 something mile cruise in Oregon. about 15 miles into it. Sorry for the cell phone vid....part way through I turned the phone sideways. Don't get dizzy
https://youtu.be/RuAgYxjsnyI |
How about a video pounding through the gears.......cruising at 60 mph is boring.... _________________
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That one line on that chart is probably better info than you can get from this place in a month |
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jpaull Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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clonebug wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Here's a short vid I recorded on a short 20 something mile cruise in Oregon. about 15 miles into it. Sorry for the cell phone vid....part way through I turned the phone sideways. Don't get dizzy
https://youtu.be/RuAgYxjsnyI |
How about a video pounding through the gears.......cruising at 60 mph is boring.... |
I was thinking the same thing! If your gonna post a video make it count. |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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jpaull wrote: |
clonebug wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Here's a short vid I recorded on a short 20 something mile cruise in Oregon. about 15 miles into it. Sorry for the cell phone vid....part way through I turned the phone sideways. Don't get dizzy
https://youtu.be/RuAgYxjsnyI |
How about a video pounding through the gears.......cruising at 60 mph is boring.... |
I was thinking the same thing! If your gonna post a video make it count. |
I'll figure out some way to mount my video camera for the next time. Hard to go through the gears while holding a phone. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Collecting parts for a 2332 |
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Drove up to Kent, Washington from Salem for VW Nationals this past weekend. Didn't race because I was having a ticking noise that wouldn't go away. Got home last night and checked it out. #4 exhaust valve pushrod. I have the so called high performance dual taper pushrods .....pushrod emd is pushing into the pushrod. Effectively shortening it and increasing valve lash quickly. I adjusted the valves to .006 before the drive home from Kent and when I got home it was more than double that. Oh well, I have a new set of chromoly pushrods that are still uncut. I'll be using those. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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