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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:20 am Post subject: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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I was advised by a UK member on the Westfalia Splitscreen Facebook group that they really liked this seal for their poptop. I can't recall who advised, therefore my question is will I also need adhesive as the barbs appear to hold on? I struggled with the WW seals.
http://www.monkeydub-car-parts.co.uk
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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Found the UK member who suggested it, he said it just pushes on with no adhesive. I'll update with a picture. _________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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Super happy with how easy this seal from Monkey Dub was to install compared to the WW one that I could not get on. Just push it on and you are done, no glue no tape to keep it in place and no help by an assistant absolutely nothing. I can't tell you how many times I have had this poptop on and off including all the hardware and wooden bows. Yesterday's over 100 degrees had me saying "I'll never ever own or refresh a poptop again but oddly and I can't believe I'm saying this but I have this down and I can do this entire process all over again with less whining. BTW don't loose the hold down hardware rounding them up me up to a year or 2 or 3. Next job is to borrow an electric staple gun again and staple the canvas to the wooden bows. Thanks for everyone's support I'm super proud of myself.
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3930 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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Your top finish looks great!
Is that paint or gel coat?
Thanks for sharing the seal option.
Does the three ribbed side go inside or outside?
It looks like the spongy piece is paper thin at one spot on the single rib side.
Did you notice the thinness at the other end of the seal too?
Maybe it being thin helps it flex in one direction & seal better? _________________ aka: Evan
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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Thanks easy e, I was on such a roll in 100 degrees that I don't recall but thought about that very same thing when I lifted it up to the bus LOL. I just spoke to Ronnie of Bustoration and he suggested a thin smear of clear silicone at the top edge to keep dirt out. I will do that soon.
As for the paint I ended up using Krylon Dover White which I used on the emblem also being my painter lost my very expensive can of L82 Silver White. It turned out better than expected.
See Krylon thread here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=20
I had to remove the bow's and hardware so many times I can't remember but I feel great getting it done and documenting for the next guy.
As a reminder this bow goes in before the sides.
I think I ordered a meter longer in case I screwed up. I believe 4 meters is enough.
easy e wrote: |
Your top finish looks great!
Is that paint or gel coat?
Thanks for sharing the seal option.
Does the three ribbed side go inside or outside?
It looks like the spongy piece is paper thin at one spot on the single rib side.
Did you notice the thinness at the other end of the seal too?
Maybe it being thin helps it flex in one direction & seal better? |
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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swiss_bulli Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2017 Posts: 123 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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Great post, thanks. I will need to restore my poptop too, but still a lot of other things to fix. Another thread suggested this seal:
https://www.steelerubber.com/top-lip-push-on-seal-70-3591-99
Did you try this too? I‘m looking for the best option available and yours look really well. |
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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swiss_bulli the steelrubber.com was suggested to me a while back and I lost the details when I was ready to install so I received the tip on this one and found it has more rubber barbs inside and holds perfectly first time. If I have time I'll buy a piece from steelrubber.com and do a test and post.
Is this your bus? What seal is on the poptop now?
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Great post, thanks. I will need to restore my poptop too, but still a lot of other things to fix. Another thread suggested this seal:
https://www.steelerubber.com/top-lip-push-on-seal-70-3591-99
Did you try this too? I‘m looking for the best option available and yours look really well. |
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19671 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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swiss_bulli wrote: |
Great post, thanks. I will need to restore my poptop too, but still a lot of other things to fix. Another thread suggested this seal:
https://www.steelerubber.com/top-lip-push-on-seal-70-3591-99
Did you try this too? I‘m looking for the best option available and yours look really well. |
I suggested that seal. I installed it on my 65 pop top three or so years back and its held up great. Its also the correct profile. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14221 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
I had to remove the bow's and hardware so many times I can't remember but I feel great getting it done and documenting for the next guy. |
Whew that looks good from here. I don't have a pop top but just wondering if the rubber could be put on with the top still attached, popped up, no curtains attached at the bottom? |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19671 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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BarryL wrote: |
LAGrunthaner wrote: |
I had to remove the bow's and hardware so many times I can't remember but I feel great getting it done and documenting for the next guy. |
Whew that looks good from here. I don't have a pop top but just wondering if the rubber could be put on with the top still attached, popped up, no curtains attached at the bottom? |
Absolutely. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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swiss_bulli Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2017 Posts: 123 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
swiss_bulli the steelrubber.com was suggested to me a while back and I lost the details when I was ready to install so I received the tip on this one and found it has more rubber barbs inside and holds perfectly first time. If I have time I'll buy a piece from steelrubber.com and do a test and post.
Is this your bus? What seal is on the poptop now?
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Yes, that is my bus. I need to update my build thread, but didn‘t have much time. It is completely naked now and needs to go to the shop to remove all paint and bondo.
The poptop seal is in bad shape and not a good match. Here are some photos:
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5501 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Late Westy Poptop Seal from Monkey Dub UK |
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swiss_bulli thanks for the detailed images, I don't know how anyone uses that trim as I was unsuccessful.
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
swiss_bulli the steelrubber.com was suggested to me a while back and I lost the details when I was ready to install so I received the tip on this one and found it has more rubber barbs inside and holds perfectly first time. If I have time I'll buy a piece from steelrubber.com and do a test and post.
Is this your bus? What seal is on the poptop now?
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Yes, that is my bus. I need to update my build thread, but didn‘t have much time. It is completely naked now and needs to go to the shop to remove all paint and bondo.
The poptop seal is in bad shape and not a good match. Here are some photos:
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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