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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

Quoting myself in another thread so that searchers that find this thread will have the info too. (Especially since I and others asked the question in this thread!)

vwwestyman wrote:
We have ignition!

For anyone else who wants to bench test one, here's how I hooked it up to the battery:

12v to:
Female connector with two red wires going to it.
Female connector with a black wire and a blue/white wire.

Ground to:
Recirculation fan ring terminal
Safety switch brown wire ring terminal
Brown with white stripe from timer switch
Ring terminal near coil with a brown wire and a red wire attached

I do have some troubleshooting to do.

After it runs for a few minutes, it seems that the safety switch wants to trip. I'm need to figure out what is causing that.

Also the combustion fan is a little buzzy. I've got two others but was having a hard time getting one of them apart. So I may swap to just see if any of the others work without opening it up. Or run this one for a while and work on the other later.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

Does the main wiring harness run up to the front more on the passenger side, or driver side of the bus? It seems to "lay" out a bit more on the passenger side as I'm installing it. But I haven't gotten to where I'll drape it up and over the suspension and all that.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

Yes. In my 76 it came into the cabin on the pass side.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

And when I pulled my unit from a Canadian bus (BA6 was stock for them), it ran up the passenger side.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

Perfect, thanks for the confirmation guys!

I'm Finally Installing a BA6 in my 1973 Wild Westerner
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

I got mine all installed but it isn't working 100% properly. I posted a couple questions here if you don't mind going and taking a look, I would surely appreciate it.

Thanks!

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8629227#8629227
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

cmonSTART wrote:
I refurbished my BA6 and run it stand along - like yours, a PO hacked and removed all of the stock heat components except the Eberspacher. After going through it I had to change around a bunch of the ducting to eliminate where it intersected with the old system. I also insulated the ducting going forward from the heater. It does work, but you will need to make darn sure you have enough air flow - install a booster fan - otherwise it will overheat.


I'm thinking of refurbing my BA6 in my 77 Westy and running it as a stand alone without the stock heat components to the rear - ie: heater boxes etc.

Does anyone have some visual aids / photos as to the set up required to make this mod?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Heating.html

this may be helpful
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

pb24ss wrote:
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Heating.html

this may be helpful


It is helpful - thanks.

So with everything circled in red removed, I just need to block off the heater at the back:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

Yes, that's how it works when the engine isn't running (and all the non return flaps are functional).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

I believe the pic is actually from a Vanagon setup


That picture is missing (i believe) the bay window's under bench air intake for the heater, so you are taking in cabin air and heating that instead of always pulling in outside cold air to work with.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

Looks like bay to me, Vanagon doesn't have the air going to the heat exchangers via the lower shroud ports. The cabin air intake is a hollow black arrow and a funnel at the intake of the fan between the words "flap housing" and "bowden cable".
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: My BA6 gas heater install (pic heavy) Reply with quote

Thanks. It seems fairly straightforward. I will be removing the BA6 to refurb and bench test first, then reinstall
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