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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:03 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Very nice of you to jump in and help them out! Post some pictures of the autopsy of the engine. I think we're all curious. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16958 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Stu says he thinks they can do a complete engine rebuild in a week or two. Depending on machine shop.
My customer talked to Brothers Machine. They told him two weeks. Well, it’s been close to that and they are still tearing it down. Now the owner is hoping it only take another month.
My point is that these kids are traveling and have a schedule to keep. Their entire trip is going to be ruined because of setbacks that aren’t known right now. That’s why I suggested buying a complete, rebuilt long block.
The problem is finding one ready to go off the shelf. I saw many offers for rebuilt long blocks but I doubt they are built by reputable shops and fully ready to ship. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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aerosurfer Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2012 Posts: 1602 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
Got it back to the farm...Looking like we are going to power wash the engine and trans, remove and tear down to the short block and inspect for a proper diagnosis. This guy also happens to be a 11 year master boat mechanic, so between my limited expertise with VWS and where to get parts, and his tools and ability to turn a wrench, I’m guessing we can do a full rebuild in a week or two depending on machine shop turn around time. You guys are treating this like a couple high school girls just blew their engine on their 25k bus...chillax for a bit and let me get some accurate diagnostics done so we can fill you in on the proper details.
Getting the right information can really help to point the finger in the right direction... or in this case, what the next step is.
It’s not like I’m going to use Ketchup And JB WELD to do a quick partial rebuild fix...we will fix it right. |
Stu,
I have a long Seattle overnight next Wednesday. I'd love to come out and help if I can, or at least come visit and catch up. Lemme know, I'll pack a set of shop clothes. Same if I'll need a rental car or you can grab me. _________________ Rebuild your own FI Harness..My Harness
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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You know what an Optimist I am, Stu, but a week turnaround in a shop will require some astrophysics alignment, or a lot of astroglide. _________________ .ssS! |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Abscate wrote: |
You know what an Optimist I am, Stu, but a week turnaround in a shop will require some astrophysics alignment, or a lot of astroglide. |
Dropping everything I have off at NW connecting rod, he said he should have it balanced and returned ready for reassembly by Friday of this next week.
Diagnosis:
Cylinder 1 hole was a little unhappy...
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51120 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
Diagnosis:
Cylinder 1 hole was a little unhappy... |
No shit slightly more work than a dropped valve _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3482 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Yeah, looks like it spun a rod bearing and then beat the crap out of the jug/ hole. Ouch! _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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if the crank was blued check the main saddles for warping adjacent to it. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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cmonSTART Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 1915 Location: NH
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Nope, not driving that back. _________________ '78 Bus 2.0FI
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22711 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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SGKent wrote: |
if the crank was blued check the main saddles for warping adjacent to it. |
What's the point? That case is history. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Just my hands. And a little lube. No tools. |
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aerosurfer Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2012 Posts: 1602 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Stu,
This bus looks a lot like Maisy reincarnated..... you sure this nice couple won’t just mysteriously disappear on the farm, while you put in a new engine... now about that ba6 _________________ Rebuild your own FI Harness..My Harness
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Holy smokes! Does the owner have any idea how many miles were on that engine?
What's the deal with the broken case? Do you or the machine shop have another one? _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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That’s really unfortunate, yet in a somewhat perverted way sort of good. Why? Now there won’t be any ‘crossed fingers and a Hail Mary’ type of enroute repair jobs. You won’t waste a bunch of time trying to scrounge good bearing parts and seals and worrying about setting deck height between two different heads, and ‘maybe’ rebuilt connecting rods.
You get to start with a fresh long block and swap engine management parts and reinstall. Nice!
Pretty cool they still have the thermostat and EGR valve. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16958 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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I’ll bet someone is burning up his keyboard about now and maybe I should go grab some FedEx stock tomorrow. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7623
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Do you or the machine shop have another one? |
Stuart is a “Parts whisperer” he probably had three or four cases lined up by noon. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin... |
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Gregg in the 603 Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2013 Posts: 404 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Good job Stu, that thing is f'd up.
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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table |
That is never good news. I'm married, which means that's been off the table for years.... _________________ 1979 Mexico Beige Westy auto
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16958 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Roadside is easy. Keeping a constant speed while staying between the lines is much tougher. At least that’s the way it was 40 years ago _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22711 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Gregg in the 603 wrote: |
Good job Stu, that thing is f'd up.
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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table |
That is never good news. I'm married, which means that's been off the table for years.... |
I'd be servin her papers for breakfast...
Hey Stewie, if you get no love up there on a case I can try a couple people down here for ya. Email me. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
Bryan67 wrote: |
Just my hands. And a little lube. No tools. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Gregg in the 603 wrote: |
Good job Stu, that thing is f'd up.
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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table |
That is never good news. I'm married, which means that's been off the table for years.... |
Written in complete innocence, but that’s a top shelf comeback.
No, wait....
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Soo... looking at the dead body on the autopsy table, what's the experts opinions on the mileage that engine had on it?
I'm thinking well over 100k. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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