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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22697 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Soo... looking at the dead body on the autopsy table, what's the experts opinions on the mileage that engine had on it?
I'm thinking well over 100k. |
One more than the mechanical limit. "It ran when I parked scattered it." _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Tram wrote: |
Gregg in the 603 wrote: |
Good job Stu, that thing is f'd up.
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Good news is the roadside head option is off the table |
That is never good news. I'm married, which means that's been off the table for years.... |
I'd be servin her papers for breakfast...
Hey Stewie, if you get no love up there on a case I can try a couple people down here for ya. Email me. |
didn't see the blow up of the case photos until just now. Time to find a long block I think. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13385 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Tram wrote: |
wcfvw69 wrote: |
Soo... looking at the dead body on the autopsy table, what's the experts opinions on the mileage that engine had on it?
I'm thinking well over 100k. |
One more than the mechanical limit. "It ran when I parked scattered it." |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50262
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Soo... looking at the dead body on the autopsy table, what's the experts opinions on the mileage that engine had on it?
I'm thinking well over 100k. |
About the only way to judge the mileage on a Type 4 engine is to look at the cam and lifters.
Not much other wear on the engine corresponds to mileage.
This engine may have been run low on oil or over revved 20k miles ago and only now decided to die. |
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Angus II Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2016 Posts: 706 Location: Mammoth Lakes Ca. 93546
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Hello,
If it is of any help...
I have a complete 2.0L cv engine(1980 vanagon) that seems to be a recent rebuilt. It has good results from the leak down test, plugs seem fine(1-4 L-R), oil doesn't smell burnt and it was really clean underneath. Most of the oil seemed to be coming from in front of the engine tin, tranny? Oh, well... take a look at the pictures, the last pic is after the steam clean. there are more in the gallery.
So, if you need it. For the case, crank, rods or what ever; if it will work,being a vanagon engine, let me know. I can ship it on a pallet Fedex.
I have a 71 bus so this engine isn't doing me any good and I'm not into it for that much. So, let me know if it can be of any help. |
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22697 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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That's the ticket right there. A 2.0 is a 2.0. Yank that puppy down to the long block and have it shipped, Stu. Put the Bus fuel exhaust and tin on it- clutch and flywheel too to save on shipping weight- and away she goes.
Wonder if and Samba folks are heading north from California. Maybe it could be gotten to me in Springfield Or. and Stu or the owners could bomb down and get it.
Just a thought... I don't mind providing the meetup spot. Maybe it CAN get on the road in a week! Hell, I'll even throw burgers and beer in the mix. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Great offer, and I’ll save it as a backup and I can pick it up personally with my TDI if the parts aren’t back by Friday. However, NW connecting rod is saying he can get me everything to build a long lock ourselves by the end of next week. So we are gonna have a full new engine built by us. Keep ya posted all! _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22697 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
Great offer, and I’ll save it as a backup and I can pick it up personally with my TDI if the parts aren’t back by Friday. However, NW connecting rod is saying he can get me everything to build a long lock ourselves by the end of next week. So we are gonna have a full new engine built by us. Keep ya posted all! |
You should pick it up anyways as a backup for Corky. Vanagon Westys were fresh hell on 2.0 aircooleds. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50262
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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You can't bolt a 1978 and earlier exhaust to a Vanagon long block due to the change in exhaust port design. You would also have to deal with a few other differences in the design that might be fine for the DIY, but one probably wouldn't want to be paying someone else to do the work. |
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Angus II Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2016 Posts: 706 Location: Mammoth Lakes Ca. 93546
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Hello, ^^^^ You are correct. For some reason I thought it was a 79 that was broken, with the square exhaust ports.
Oh well, It was just a thought....
Well, if anyone gernades their engine coming though the area, I've got one, along with a BA6 heater system.. |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7527 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Wasted youth wrote: |
Pretty cool they still have the thermostat and EGR valve. |
Um, no.. that thermostat is expanded and shot;
(Same with the one on the Vanagon donor offer),
And,
I’ll bet you that EGR is plugged solid.
So,
Looking at the amount of sludge piled onto the top of that dead motor,
It looks to me that this thing was a giant pile all along.
Bet you the harness is wonky,
the injectors half-plugged,
And the temp sensors long ago gone wrong.
So it will be looking blow up again real soon..
Gotta pay your dues, boys.
Looks to me like our OP pretty much got what he ordered.
Sure,
There’s bad luck for people out there,
But just one look at this thing shows that things are exactly as they are supposed to be in the universe.
Good on the community for bailing him out anyways..! _________________ Bus Motor Build
What’s That Noise?!? |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Any updates? Is the shop building a long block? _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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VWDog Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2005 Posts: 617 Location: Ladysmith, BC
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
Great offer, and I’ll save it as a backup and I can pick it up personally with my TDI if the parts aren’t back by Friday. However, NW connecting rod is saying he can get me everything to build a long lock ourselves by the end of next week. So we are gonna have a full new engine built by us. Keep ya posted all! |
Good to hear Jerry at NWCR is going to be part of the solution Stuart. I have nothing but praise for him as he has helped me out with both my Type 1 and Type 4 woes.
Any updates? _________________
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2182 Location: seattle
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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If NWCR is machining/inspecting, it'll be all good.
Actually best spot in the tri-state area for this work. |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7527 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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So, it's been well over a week,
They are all done and traveled home now, right? _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7599
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Clatter wrote: |
So, it's been well over a week,
They are all done and traveled home now, right? |
Come on now. It’s only been a week since the engine diagnosis/autopsy. NWCR said it wouldn’t be until this Friday to have the work done with everything he dropped off. But I am curious about the details of this build and what the lovely couple has been doing all week. I’ve seen Stu do magical mechanics. So give him a chance. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Clatter wrote: |
Wasted youth wrote: |
Pretty cool they still have the thermostat and EGR valve. |
Um, no.. that thermostat is expanded and shot;
(Same with the one on the Vanagon donor offer),
And,
I’ll bet you that EGR is plugged solid. |
I was talking about the donor engine...
EGR filter and valve can be serviced. At least the parts are there... and not sure how you can ascertain that the donor thermostat is bad. Of the coffee can full of the ones I have saved, I find the only true test is with a a dunk test and thermometer, but no matter. It’s all old and worn. It would be hard to justify putting that high mileage engine in and expecting good things. Besides, the vanagon exhaust is different. |
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Malokin Martin Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 3093 Location: E-burg
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Northwest Connecting Rod is not the same as it once was. I drank their Koolaid for the last decade. Jerry has become less hands on with the builds and the quality has really suffered. And if you need a quick engine it’s definitely not the place to go.
And that’s not like, “oh man he does such a good job it takes a while” either. You’re going to get excuse after excuse and in the end (weeks/months from now), you’ll get the same cobbled together weekend motor build.
Don’t get me wrong, Jerry is a cool dude. The people he has putting stuff together just don’t give a shit.
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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Which makes me wonder what’s going on with these travelers. First promise was a week or two. I said go rent something and continue the trip but sitting around waiting on a rebuilt long block is just no going to turn out well _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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Malokin Martin Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 3093 Location: E-burg
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Mayday!! Broke down in Longview WA. |
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They’re hosed as it’s vintage meet next week here also. |
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