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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

For everyone who hasn't seen this on Facebook during the last days:

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NT-02-26 Volkswagen Transporter bestelwagen 1952 by Carcheologisch Onderzoeker, on Flickr

Never seen a similar bus before. This one has corner windows and i also love the rails on the roof!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

And did you already know about this Swedish "Orient Expressen" Bus?

I found this black/white picture in swedish vw forum "Boxerville" years ago.
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And today somebody posted these 3 photos of the very same bus in an english group on facebook. He said he found them in an old swedish magazine.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

AustroBus wrote:
For everyone who hasn't seen this on Facebook during the last days:
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Never seen a similar bus before. This one has corner windows and i also love the rails on the roof!


certainly does not look very rapid Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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AustroBus wrote:
For everyone who hasn't seen this on Facebook during the last days:
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Never seen a similar bus before. This one has corner windows and i also love the rails on the roof!


certainly does not look very rapid Wink


who knows.. i know about a Kohlruss bus that had a 1300 engine of a Porsche 356 engine built in it! Razz
It was the fastest bus in the Alps.. although the gear box broke twice a year and so it had to be repaired very often Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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Ice-cool shot

Looks to be an original sunroof bus as you can see the skylight inner pressings
Makes you wonder why they didnt use the forward skylight pressing using a VW window as opposed to those unusually shaped ones

Wheels pinstripes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Today i received another picture of this special adventure bus! Love it!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

front roof windows look a lot like oval beetle rear windows to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

AustroBus wrote:
mandraks wrote:
AustroBus wrote:
For everyone who hasn't seen this on Facebook during the last days:
Never seen a similar bus before. This one has corner windows and i also love the rails on the roof!


certainly does not look very rapid Wink


who knows.. i know about a Kohlruss bus that had a 1300 engine of a Porsche 356 engine built in it! Razz
It was the fastest bus in the Alps.. although the gear box broke twice a year and so it had to be repaired very often Laughing


sounds like an excellent idea, really short gears and not much heavier than a porsche 356
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Take a look at the additional window - left above the boys head.
Kohlruss or Schreiner? Think
Too bad that the reflection on the right side hides the side window of the other side..

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Caption says "Proud driver" - totally relatable if you ask me! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

RockStock wrote:
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Ice-cool shot

Looks to be an original sunroof bus as you can see the skylight inner pressings
Makes you wonder why they didnt use the forward skylight pressing using a VW window as opposed to those unusually shaped ones

Wheels pinstripes

Non-deluxe sunroof buses only had the three roof window reinforcement stampings behind the B pillars on each side. This was to strengthen the roof around the sunroof perimeter. Not necessary for the front section.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Not sure if it has front roof windows at all. the pssgr side doesn't have one, so I assume it's just a reflection in an accessory sunvisor. roof windows are coachbuilt though with a polished aluminium frame.

it has a ski rack on top. these were basically very thick rubber bands, expanded and tied to the drip rails. I have a pair of these ( don't know where though... Laughing )
it's funny because the boy seems to be wearing a summer shirt.


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Take a look at the additional window - left above the boys head.
Kohlruss or Schreiner? Think
Too bad that the reflection on the right side hides the side window of the other side..

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Caption says "Proud driver" - totally relatable if you ask me! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Hmm.. Think I took another, closer look at the photo and I still think it is a window above the passenger sides front. In my opinion the perspective is a bit confusing and the other window that we see is already the piano hinge of the co-drivers side.
Another thought that i have is, that if you take a closer look at the awning in the background you can also spot it through this little roof window that we are discussing about. Going out from the left side of the awning, the 3rd vertical grey line - you have to imagine how it would extend if the bus wasn't there.. And i believe that i makes a slight bow and you can see it through the window. But maybe that's just what i want to see and i am wrong.

You're right! Maybe it was already close to the end of the season as the awning in the background is rolled out and there is now snow seen in this picture detail. Tough little boy! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

as well, I can see the chrome trim above the driver area. definitely has glass over driver/passenger
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

That's true. I mistook the front vent window for the pssgr screen. Now that you both pointed out, it's clearly visible that it has front skylites.
The boy is posing Austrian Surfer style. with a ski rack on top ! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

That front reminds me of this very cool microcar of the fifties..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Looking at the store front I am about to cry. chrome posts, rounded corner glass, clean lettering - all pure 1950s -brilliant!
these are fading rapidly over here. With all those ancient many centuries old buildings around in Austria nobody seems to really care for mid century (ie 1950s) architecture at all it seems.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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Hmm.. Think I took another, closer look at the photo and I still think it is a window above the passenger sides front. In my opinion the perspective is a bit confusing and the other window that we see is already the piano hinge of the co-drivers side.
Another thought that i have is, that if you take a closer look at the awning in the background you can also spot it through this little roof window that we are discussing about. Going out from the left side of the awning, the 3rd vertical grey line - you have to imagine how it would extend if the bus wasn't there.. And i believe that i makes a slight bow and you can see it through the window. But maybe that's just what i want to see and i am wrong.

You're right! Maybe it was already close to the end of the season as the awning in the background is rolled out and there is now snow seen in this picture detail. Tough little boy! Cool



Tough little boy? Maybe they have an Eberspacher running? Laughing

Very cool to see these odd coachbuilts. Do we know if window additions were glass or plexiglass? What was the common source in the 50's?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

on the Kohlruss they were both hardened glass ( flat glass) and perspex (plexiglass) for shaped or crowned windows.
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