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xzener Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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Well, seems how I do not have a proper grinder and would have had to taken them to work, I chose a different much easier route. _________________ My 70 beetle was totaled Now to build the Ghia I always wanted. Rest in peace Ruby, I will miss you. Hello <insert Ghia name here>! |
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Alois66 Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2019 Posts: 24 Location: Germany Bavaria
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:15 am Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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Dear Ghia friends,
I just wanted to contribute to that thread and share my expertise.
I did the repair last weekend and it went well with some minor but helpful improvements.
0.) Get a repair kit (mine was from national Porsche Parts dealer for a 911 Porsche). Not sure whether it corresponds to SierraMadre or Stoddard. But it mentioned the danish JP-Group on the label.
1.) Follow the exellent thread above.
2.) The small grooved pins have to be driven out from the side without the parts number (WD40 helps). The tip of the grooved pins with the point in the center is the thickest one, so don't attempt to hammer it out from there. Also use a punch with the closest matching diameter.
3.) For dismanteling and rotating out the plates I used a big big nut as a support for the big screwdriver.
4.) Also fixing the striker in a bench vice helps tremendously. As you can hammer the plates and wedge the plates apart at the same time.
5.) For inserting the new plastic parts after cleaning, rotate the plate in a position in which the plastic inserts fit and then insert the metal bushings.
6.) For each striker I modified only one metal bushing. I ground it down significantly (about 1,5mm left) and then I ground a wedge on one side (less then half of its side). See the red line as a reference
7.) Installing the bushings: The unmodified bushing goes in the part furthest away from the rotation center (so the plate can be lifted up higher easily). The modified wedged bushing goes in the plastic part closer to the rotation center and the bushing will be oriented in a way that the rotating plate will meet it on it's lowest spot and while rotating it further, it will lift itself up.
8.) Again do it in a bench vice (unless you are an octopod ) . Use the big screwdriver and the hammer and persuade it together.
And voila installed.
Hope that helps. Not easy but easier.
Best regards
Max |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1678 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:57 am Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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Alois66, great job, that's amazing. Modifying the bushing by cutting it at an angle so that the plate climbs up onto it is a brilliant idea!
I agree, a bench vice would make this job a lot easier. Wish I'd had one when I did this! _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3817 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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This seems to be sticky worthy, unless there already is one. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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rbsurfguy Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2008 Posts: 1757 Location: Fairfax, Northern Virginia Formerly Huntington Beach, SoCal
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:15 am Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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Already there, this is the Sticky!
Jeff _________________ 1971 Ghia convertible (Body off rebuild)
2019 VW Atlas 4Motion
2012 Passat-Sold
See my build on The Samba at:
Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight= |
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3916 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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jeffrey8164 wrote: |
This seems to be sticky worthy, unless there already is one. |
Yes, it was recognised as worthy a few years ago. Your comment does prompt me to suggest everyone should peruse these stickies even to jog your memory of the contents. Sometimes we forget how good the information is and how much head scratching can be alleviated because of them.
Nicholas _________________ '66 Karmann Ghia Cabriolet...
'65 Porsche 356C Coupe...
2005 Mecedes Benz C180 Kompressor Estate
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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Abigdumkid Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2017 Posts: 74 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:22 am Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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So I’m reading this sticky, went and looked at my strikers, and they’re shot. So this is gonna be my project now. Couple questions for the OP and others who did this:
1) has anyone used the replacement kit from Stoddard or Pelican? Any difference?
2) when taking the old striker plate off the car, do I need to worry about what the screws go into falling down behind the pillar or are there nuts welded in behind?
Thanks in advance. _________________ 74 Bahia red Ghia coupe. Built Jan 24th 1974, left on Jan 31st 1974. Initial destination Columbus/USA. |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1678 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:34 am Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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Abigdumkid wrote: |
So I’m reading this sticky, went and looked at my strikers, and they’re shot. So this is gonna be my project now. Couple questions for the OP and others who did this:
1) has anyone used the replacement kit from Stoddard or Pelican? Any difference?
2) when taking the old striker plate off the car, do I need to worry about what the screws go into falling down behind the pillar or are there nuts welded in behind?
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The capture nuts in the door jamb won't fall out. They're secured in a "slot" for lack of a better word, so that they won't fall out but still have some movement to adjust the position of the door striker.
If you haven't removed your strikers yet, mark their position with painter's tape, so that you have a good starting point of placement for when they go back on. Otherwise you'll be spending a fair amount of 'guess and test' time getting their alignment correct when you put them back on. _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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rbsurfguy Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2008 Posts: 1757 Location: Fairfax, Northern Virginia Formerly Huntington Beach, SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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Era Vulgaris wrote: |
Abigdumkid wrote: |
So I’m reading this sticky, went and looked at my strikers, and they’re shot. So this is gonna be my project now. Couple questions for the OP and others who did this:
1) has anyone used the replacement kit from Stoddard or Pelican? Any difference?
2) when taking the old striker plate off the car, do I need to worry about what the screws go into falling down behind the pillar or are there nuts welded in behind?
Thanks in advance. |
If you haven't removed your strikers yet, mark their position with painter's tape, so that you have a good starting point of placement for when they go back on. Otherwise you'll be spending a fair amount of 'guess and test' time getting their alignment correct when you put them back on. |
Agree with marking the striker places, I'm dealing with that now since mine were already off for body repair and paint. Can't seem to get the bottom of the door to tuck in after putting the rubber on, so now having to play with the adjustment....not fun.
In regards to the inserts for the strikers, it should be noted in the sticky what we used, I can't remember if it's any of the brands you listed in your question.
Either way, read through carefully what Era and I went through, and others so you can get those inserts mounted properly.
Jeff _________________ 1971 Ghia convertible (Body off rebuild)
2019 VW Atlas 4Motion
2012 Passat-Sold
See my build on The Samba at:
Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight= |
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Abigdumkid Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2017 Posts: 74 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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Thanks RB and ERA for the responses. I ordered the Stoddard versions of these. I see ERA and you went with Sierramadre. When they arrive, we’ll see if there is really much of a difference. I’ve already read this gallery 4 times and will read it again before starting. Thanks to you both on the info on the capture nuts and marking with painters tape. _________________ 74 Bahia red Ghia coupe. Built Jan 24th 1974, left on Jan 31st 1974. Initial destination Columbus/USA. |
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Alois66 Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2019 Posts: 24 Location: Germany Bavaria
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:33 am Post subject: Re: 67-74 door striker |
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I used the Stoddard one from what i can tell and they work well.
A short advice: Start with the first one in the evening, do some swearing and cursing until you finished the first one. Do the second one after a good nights sleep on the next morning and it will be much easier and you'll be fine.
Good luck
Max |
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