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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Fuel line... I use Gates Barricade Fuel Injection hose that is rated for ethanol blends. I get that from OReilly’s Auto. The FI hose from Autozone is absolute crap.

The difficulty in starting where you put two batteries in parallel (I hope) indicates to me that your wiring from battery to ignition switch then back to start solenoid is questionable. Some people eliminate this common problem with a “hot start relay” but both times I have experienced this, I fixed the problem by cutting back the wires enough to crimp on new quality lugs at all points. Verify also that your transmission ground strap is clean and tight.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:23 am    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Awesome trip. I hope to make a trip similar to this in my bus sometime in the near future. Ideally with my wife. We would drive to Toronto-NY-Maryland-Maine (for Lobster and a sunrise, which is the purpose of the trip)-back to New Hampshire-NY-Niagra-back to Detroit. I'm hoping it will be next year or the year after. But I have to finish the interior and finish up some little things on the bus first. I like your engine RPM's at highway speeds much better than mine, I might have to look into a freeway flyer. Or maybe just bigger tires.

Anyway, enough rambling, Awesome trip! Way to get out there and thank you for sharing. Those of us that don't have the resources (time and or money) currently thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

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Fuel line... I use Gates Barricade Fuel Injection hose that is rated for ethanol blends. I get that from OReilly’s Auto. The FI hose from Autozone is absolute crap.

The difficulty in starting where you put two batteries in parallel (I hope) indicates to me that your wiring from battery to ignition switch then back to start solenoid is questionable. Some people eliminate this common problem with a “hot start relay” but both times I have experienced this, I fixed the problem by cutting back the wires enough to crimp on new quality lugs at all points. Verify also that your transmission ground strap is clean and tight.
But before you do that, remove your ground strap from the battery, then disconnect it where it bolts to the body. That bolt may be rusty and may break when you remove it. At any rate, take some fine sandpaper and shine up the side of the ground strap that touches the body and shine up the steel of the body where the ground strap contacts it. Now, before you put the ground strap back on, disconnect and clean up your positive connection to the battery both on the battery end and the starter end. Reconnect the positive, then reconnect the ground. In other words, you are cleaning BOTH ends of BOTH cables. If that doesn’t help it to start better, now disconnect and clean up both ends of the transmission ground strap. Let us know how things work out. Best of luck! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

I get quite weary reading non-stop posts about repairs and modifications written by the Tech-Weenie crowd. I am thrilled to see your photos and read about your trip.
It was great to read about someone using their Westy for what it was designed for.

Thanks for all the time and energy that it took to let the rest of us live vicariously thru your travels.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

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1) In Spokane, the engine started making a “ticka-ticka-ticka” sound at low RPM under heavy load, but the sound went away at high RPM. I did a valve adjustment in Coeur d’Alene, but still heard the noise the next day driving to Bothell. The engine was running fine. In Bothell, I thought “maybe it’s an exhaust leak?”, looked underneath and immediately saw the exhaust nut that had come loose. Duh. I tightened that, no more noise.
-It is a good idea while you are under there adjusting valves to put a wrench on all the 13mm fasteners. You have the wrench in your hand and it takes just a few minutes. Especially the engine mount bolts.
2) While doing the valve adjustment, I noticed one of the gas lines looked wet. I checked closer and the line was soaked in gas. After removing it I found the rubber line was split open about halfway around. This was the german-style braided line, and the braiding was the only thing holding it together. I had replaced all the fuel lines less than two years ago and never expected any problems with that. Some people on the Samba have commented that the german-syle line nowadays is crap, now I have experienced it. This was the line connecting the metal tube from the fuel tank to the fuel pump, and runs right above the distributor. I’m so thankful I saw that when I did. I replaced it with US fuel line from a local auto store. I need to replace all the rest of the fuel line.
- Gates Low Permeation hose.
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3) On the first day driving when it was so hot, the starter would struggle to turn over the engine.
- Starter system testing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXENKujYtc
4. Sometimes the engine did not want to start. The starter would turn the engine fine, but it wouldn’t fire up. This seems to be random except it never occurs at the start of the day when everything is cold. Most of the time, it started when I connected both batteries together. If that didn't work, I always 100% of the time got it started by connecting a wire from a battery directly to the coil, and it started immediately. My guess is something to do with voltage drop when the starter is pulling down the battery voltage.
- This is due to a voltage drop as you guessed. Run the test above.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

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I get quite weary reading non-stop posts about repairs and modifications written by the Tech-Weenie crowd. I am thrilled to see your photos and read about your trip.
It was great to read about someone using their Westy for what it was designed for.

Thanks for all the time and energy that it took to let the rest of us live vicariously thru your travels.


Strongly disagree. More DIY are the only way these cars will stay on the road.

Unlike Social Media, the Samba is not invading your private life and info, you can come, go, check in, check out, lurk - all as you please.

There is also expertise here which is just not resident on FB. When I goof-balled why AC doesn't work under 35, someone corrected me and told me why with a solid reference, unlike the linked together know nothings on social media
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

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static wrote:
I get quite weary reading non-stop posts about repairs and modifications written by the Tech-Weenie crowd. I am thrilled to see your photos and read about your trip.
It was great to read about someone using their Westy for what it was designed for.

Thanks for all the time and energy that it took to let the rest of us live vicariously thru your travels.


Strongly disagree. More DIY are the only way these cars will stay on the road.

Unlike Social Media, the Samba is not invading your private life and info, you can come, go, check in, check out, lurk - all as you please.

There is also expertise here which is just not resident on FB. When I goof-balled why AC doesn't work under 35, someone corrected me and told me why with a solid reference, unlike the linked together know nothings on social media


I don't think anyone was saying there shouldn't be diy stuff. We all appreciate what thesamba is, that's why we are here. Static is just saying he also likes the travel reports. And I agree with him. I don't like the van life travel videos with sound over, those are just obnoxious and not well done. But a well documented road trip with some good van pictures, sign me up! Especially if it has van specifics about breakdowns, camp sites, parts the person liked or disliked. I'm all for those. And if say this one lies in that category
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing your trip with us. I enjoyed it and it reminded me of my favorite trip in my 70 bus when hubby and I went from Sacramento CA to Anderson Island WA, then to Whidbey Island WA, back to Sac. We went along the coast to Florence OR, then cut over to 5 to go to WA. Then back 5 to Sac. Loved that trip.

I love you box for your luggage rack and the way you access it. Can you take close up's of it? Would love to try to talk hubby into making something similar for my bus.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

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I don't like the van life travel videos with sound over, those are just obnoxious and not well done.


Agree, and I ignore them, and in extreme examples, put posters on my ignore list. Most people don't "like" the dicks here with the expertise, until they are in trouble, and then suddenly they are nice.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Thank you everyone for the ideas and suggestions on the starting issue. I have to make some time to go through it methodically, these give me some places to start.

static wrote:

Thanks for all the time and energy that it took to let the rest of us live vicariously thru your travels.

That's what I do, live vicariously through the travel stories! I love the road trip/adventure stories here! Whenever a new posting gets loaded about a trip, I have to drop everything to read it. There's some long ones (Hasta Alaska and GoBigEmma come to mind), many shorter ones, sometimes the posting is good, sometimes it's bad, occasionally it's "oh no!", but that's what makes the story. I posted my trip hoping that others get the same enjoyment I do from these stories.

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I love you box for your luggage rack and the way you access it. Can you take close up's of it? Would love to try to talk hubby into making something similar for my bus.

I'll take some pictures of the box and post them soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

I would suggest that when you are ready to tackle the Starting issue. You start a new Thread on that subject.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing your trip!

It's looking like a trip I had hoped to join in on won't likely work out for me this year, so I have to live vicariously through others!

I like both types of threads. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

I blew the motor on my 71 a week after getting home from BBB. That was January. I humped through the rebuild and all the other stuff I did when I had it apart. I took pics and posted my work here on the samba. Then I dropped off the map. Why? because I was out using that sucker like it should be used. I went camping several times. went to Featherly park and Blackstar too! getting out to the eastern sierras next month to get a line wet and catch trout.

Why have I said all this? simply put I am going to vow here and now to post more of my travels in my bus. She's no "trailer queen" and I should document that fact more.
Thanks for posting up the great travel recap. I did a very similar trip in my bus back in 2005. The Columbia gorge was a big highlight. We drove the road down the southern shore to Portland. Great trip that year.

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{In the California redwoods 2005.}

And funny thing also, I was in Yosemite with the family last week myself. We stayed at the Wawona hotel so the bus stayed home that trip. Love that place. My wife and I were married there and we go back every five years for our anniversary. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Please do post your travels.
It seams all we ever here about is the breakdowns and I know there's Busses out there taking their owners on worry free adventures.
I don't get out much, but when I do I seem to forget to snap some pics.
I will commit to doing the same.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:46 am    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Across all Fora, the thread updates that make my day are sunnydogs family Bay, the Toaster, and Sanchius and Tuna. I enjoyed Emma and her trip, too.

I hope a Samba keeps attracting Both trips and experts on these vehicles.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Camping trip in a 1971 Westfalia Reply with quote

Ohmygosh, I almost forgot:

I never name any of my vehicles. But this bus introduces herself by name to everyone she meets. Check out the license plate in the photos.

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Of course... her name is "Kora". It's greek origin meaning "maiden".

I think that's a pretty cool name. Very Happy
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