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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

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My son and I are planning a trip from NJ to Oshkosh, WI to Airventure 2018, a huge week-long air show hosted by the Experimental Aviation Association. We plan to leave on Wed, July 18, 2018 and head up through NY state to Niagara Falls, then on to Ontario, CA, up over Lake Huron and Lake Michigan, and finally down to Oshkosh by the 22nd.

Any other VW enthusiasts going to Airventure/Oshkosh?

Are there any sights or camping spots or people along our route that would be good to seek out?

When I was a kid, my dad and I often talked about how fun it would be to go to this event, but we never made it there. Now my son is 17 and I would love to experience it with him.

The bus is in good shape and we have lots of spares and tools. I'm no stranger to travel in old buses, but I'll have my fingers crossed too!

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have. I'll post pics when I have some.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

That will be a great trip in your bus.

One place you may want to check out is The Grand Sable Dunes next to Grand Marais, MI. Pretty cool beaches and some camping spots too. I know it might be a few miles off your track, but worth a look if you can.
I may try to make it over to that show too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

sounds great,
let me know if you need any ideas or help in the central/upstate NY region.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

Sounds like a great trip. Keep us posted.
A list of things you might want to carry.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

The Grand Sable Dunes looks beautiful. We might have enough time to route through there. Send me a message if you come down to Airventure, basssloane. We're camping in Stony Point SP in NY the first night, just outside of Dansville (How about that, Dan!). I appreciate the link, Tcash. I have most of the stuff on the list, but there are several good ideas that I will add.

I'm curious to see what the camping situation is like in Ontario, in the general area of Guelph, or along the northern coast of Lake Huron, for that matter. I've looked at a few commercial campgrounds and some provincial parks, but I haven't reserved anything. I'm sure we'll find a piece of ground somewhere. I'll post when we do.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

Happy to chime in on the Ontario leg of your journey. Sounds like fun - my dad attended with a friend about 25 years ago, flying from SW Ont to Osh Kosh in our friend's Cessna. Sounded awesome!

As for your route - crossing at the Falls, heading north in ON to cross back into the States at Sault Ste. Marie? Assuming that is correct:

Guelph - there are some camping options around there, but you're really close to the most populated area of Canada, so plan to book ahead if possible. Basically, you're within 1hr of Toronto, Kitchener-Waterloo and even London. Elora Gorge is a pretty unique limestone gorge (a micro version of the Ithaca, NY area). The only other place I've camped is NW of there - Albion Hills Conservation area. Basically, for the Guelph area, search for Conservation Area with camping - there's no Provincial Park options in that area.

Going north - you can either:
1. Follow the Niagara Escarpment north to Tobermory and take the Chi Chi Mon ferry across to Manitoulin Island. A scenic route with good hikes, views and camping options (Bruce Peninsula National Park, Cypress Lake PP -- both, try to book ahead. Bruce might have non-reservable sites too). Manitoulin is particularly quiet and hops you up to Espanola where you'll head west to the Sault. At Espanola, you'll be rejoining route #2.
2. Head straight north through what we call Muskoka or cottage country. Friday's are _busy_ on the highway - better off backroading north from Guelph. You might miss this traffic though.
- there are some great provincial parks north of Parry Sound: Killbear and Grundy Lake are both nice. Killarney is stunning, but an hour off the main road. At Sudbury, you'll head west on the Transcan, joining up with route #1.
Other sites:
- French River PP is a nice stop with a short hike in to a waterfall that is more historic than spectacular shall we say. It's the historic fur trade route.
- Sudbury - the Big Nickel - worth a quick stop. 25 years ago, the whole Sudbury area was essentially denuded by pollution. Great to see trees and such returning

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- Chutes PP in Massey, ON is small and great! We stayed there last summer and really enjoyed it.
- From there, you're striking distance to the Sault and the bridge back to the States.

Have a great trip!

PS - great mechanic in Orangeville, ON if needed - Total Mechanic Services.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

I'm 30 minutes from I-94 in southeast Wi, if you need a spot to camp, take a break, or whatever my property is always open for a bus. I'm near 2 public airports and 2 private ones so we see all sorts of cool planes before and after the fly in.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

Ride_On, that post is pure gold! Many thanks. It's good to know about Total Mechanic Services. We'll be near that neighborhood on Thursday.

We have reservations on the Chi Chi Mon ferry on Friday afternoon, so our route pretty much matches your option 1. Smile I looked today and the ferry is now booked solid that day! We will indeed cross back into the US at Sault Ste. Marie. I will check out as many of your recommendations as I can!

wiscokid, thank you for sharing your space with us. We plan to return to NJ below the Great Lakes, which should send us nearby, probably on Sunday the 29th. If you're around, I'd like to stop by just to say hi. I'll message you closer to the mark.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

make a stop for a treat at Lucky's stand in Spanish, On
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

Check with your sell phone provider about Roaming charges in Canada.
One guy came home to a $350 bill for Roaming and he never even crossed the border.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

If you have spare time when crossing at The Sault (say Soo) On the Canadian side go to the Bush Plane Museum and on the US side take a Locks tour.

I would assume you have an EzPass, if you do add the bus and bring it. =If not get one. The savings on tolls and the option of high speed tolling makes it worth it.

Do the West bypass around Chicago on the way home.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

Awesome! Lucky's: tagged on Google Maps. Verizon: set with TravelPass (five bucks a day to access data and minutes, and you're only charged on days you use it). EZ-Pass? In the Sault? Who knew? I'm bringing it! Also tagged the Bush Plane Museum and Soo Locks Boat Tours.

This is going to be fun! Smile Thanks!
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PostPosted: Yesterday 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure 2018 - NJ to Oshkosh, WI via Ontario Reply with quote

As a heads up... Ontario has been seriously dry this summer, so you are likely to encounter burn bans en route. This means no open flames - stoves are okay, but no campfires.

On Manitoulin Island, two classics are the Cup and Saucer Trail and Bridal Veil Falls. The latter is still a neat attraction, even if it's only a sprinkle. Plus, it is literally right beside the road.

In Massey, if you go to Chutes Prov Park, it's a nice hike/walk on the trail that goes upriver, plus... you may be into blueberry season! There's swimming in the river below the main falls too. Very refreshing!

Have a great trip!
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