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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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SixVolt wrote: |
Appreciate that insight. I'll post a pic of what's there when I get it back down to Ohio. |
My 59 is a post May bus and came with a full synchro trans, so the switch to big nut was easy.
For the cables, I used thr later ones but instead of shortening them I used pieces of metal tubing to cover the excess cable an tightened th nuts against that. Works fine. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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tpinthepack wrote: |
I thought the Bastard 40 and the Fully Synchronized Tranny came out at the same time? Odd to have a Bastard on a split tranny? |
Output of the Bastard 40 HP is same as the earlier 36 HP.... _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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SixVolt Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2004 Posts: 1136 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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Ok, here is an update. Went up to Michigan and trailered the bus back. The prior owner Ben is a really nice guy who did a lot of nice work on this bus.
In any event, we discussed how it woulld probably be better to consider putting in another tranny and if its a big nut to probably go with a bigger engine than the 40HP.
So here's some pics under the bus of the trans/mount location.
Can any of you knowledgable split owners tell me if this bus (Again VIN #473896) has the earlier set up or will a big nut fit without one of those adapters?
If you can't tell from these pics, what areas can I photograph to give you a better view to tell?
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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That image shows the later cast in place torsion bar tube mounting points for the later tunnel case front mount. Plus you can see the later front mount is not hanging down on some rinky dink adapter. So either it is a bus that came after the switch over or someone welded in a newer torsion bar tube.
You can also check for switch over date/chassi number in the "Progressive Refinements" or even the VW dealership parts manual, that will show at what chassi number the front mount changed.
here:
http://www.oacdp.org/ _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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BTW those square headed bolts on either side of the rear shift linkage coupler need to be safety wired together in such a way as to keep each of them TIGHT.
Had one fall out in middle of nowhere NM. Not real good to have happen! Have kept them wired since then. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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SixVolt Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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Many thanks! That's good news. As I mentioned earlier, I have a drum to drum core big nut that I can have a shop go through. I have a buddy that can help me go through the RGB's. I don't like getting too far away from stock, but I owned a '59 previously with a small nut and a 36HP and it was scary getting on a freeway even on a Sunday morning. I know the gearing probably isn't all that much better, but my current trans was ground down by someone in the past (not Ben) to an ugly pulp. The replacement big nut trans doesn't have the bell housing ground down. I may even be 12 volt, as it has these rubber pads on the axles that suggest its a late split trans.
I'll get on those square nuts as well. Thanks for the tip.
Many thanks to all who weighed in! |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14257 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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Judging by the seal on your shift input and a couple other possibilities I think you already have a Big Nut tranny and most likely a '67. Don't get too excited yet as it might just be an uprated nosecone with backup lights and the sealed shaft. |
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SixVolt Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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It is an updated nosecone. Good eye. The current tranny is a small nut. 36mm. My core (potential replacement) tranny is 46mm. I'll try to get a pic up of the potential replacement core. The previous bus owner (Ben) had issues with the old nosecone on the tranny he was working with. He found a replacement small nut and put a replacement nose cone on that tranny. It was frustrating for him because someone previously butchered the bell housing on the trans converting some other vehicle to 12V. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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You can use a self supporting starter to work with that chewed out bell housing. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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ToolBox Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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SixVolt wrote: |
I know there are many threads on this topic, but finding the best ones depends on the search terms used and I've sometimes forgotten what terms I previouly used to get at some of the better threads.
In any event, I may be putting a big nut into a '59 (VIN#473896)
Is this all I need?
https://www.wolfgangint.com/store/product/trans-adapter-2301265/
What about the nose cone and hockey stick? Does the big nut nose cone and hockey stick just mount to this adapter? |
Sean, it is a tunnelcase trans bus...
Stop by the new house on your way home, I am sort of on the way. |
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
You can use a self supporting starter to work with that chewed out bell housing. |
Especially if it's a 12 volt. If you are putting in nothing more than a 1600 I would stick with small nut, anything bigger, than big nut. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Erik G Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Installing Big nut tranny in a 59 Kombi |
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I dunno I really like a 1500sp and Big Nut combo, 1600+ as well. My 1500SP Big Nut combo worked well in the city and on freeways, I would have to drop to 3rd on long steep foothills (from Sacramento to Auburn daily) _________________ Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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Bruce Amacker Samba Member
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