Stiffer 2WD Suspension Needed, Please Help

[E1]

Sorry Hans, unless we're talking about a huge corporation, I learned a very long time ago in my business to not reveal details like that online.

Both parties are happy with our agreement. If it hadn't worked out, I'd mention it out of regard for other bus owners.

Thanks.
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[Zeitgeist 13]

Hmmm...this thread leaves the rest of us with blueish orbs dangling
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[markswagen]

Glad to read you have the situation under control
Open invite, although it's a bit chilli here right now, we don't need the AC on at night now

[E1]

Appreciate that, Mark!

(Edit: PM sent yesterday)
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[baltik]

Another datapoint - had 2" GW lift springs with bilsteins on my 2wd westy and HATED them, way too soft and van dove very hard on braking.

My next ride was a syncro with OME shocks and stock springs, night and day difference. Not a perfect comparison but I would extrapolate that the stiffer Schwenk springs with OME shocks may be just the ticket for you

[TaylorGrant]

All GoWesty suspension springs employ the very latest design principles, high-tech manufacturing processes, and high-quality materials. Each spring goes through rigorous inspection and testing processes and is compressed (stressed) beyond the point to which it will ever be compressed in-vehicle to verify it meets the specification of the design. Any spring that does not pass this test is discarded. However, no manufacturing process is perfect, and that includes the process of making our springs. It is impossible to inspect and test every inch of the tens of thousands of inches of steel we use before being wound into a spring and installed on a vehicle. Every so often, a spring can and will fail.

As most of you know, every manufactured item the world over can be expected to have a failure rate of some kind. We have sold literally thousands of suspension springs with a 99% success rate. Still, 1% of one thousand is 10 springs. The number of failures we have experienced are enough to generate conversation. But, in reality, our success rate is almost perfect.

This is what we want everybody to know about GoWesty suspension springs:

• Our springs are manufactured in the USA by a premier spring manufacturer that has been around since 1896. These folks know how to make quality springs!

• Each spring is compressed (set/released) to a height shorter than it can be compressed in the vehicle—and is, therefore, designed never to take a permanent set or “sag.”

• Our springs are covered by a Limited Lifetime Warranty. They are guaranteed never to sag, period.

• Our springs also have a 60-Day Satisfaction Guarantee. If you are dissatisfied with them for any reason, just send them back for a 100% refund.

• If even one of our springs sags, or becomes defective in any way, we will replace the entire set or refund your money. No questions asked.

• If the returned spring(s) is/are determined to be defective, we will also reimburse you for the initial installation labor. We will also pay for the spring(s) to be returned to the manufacturer for thorough testing to determine why it happened.

GoWesty has, and always will, put our best foot forward when faced with a potentially-defective coil spring—or any product for that matter. It is in our best interests and, of course, the best interests of the VW community at large. Remember, if you ever experience an issue with a GoWesty product, reach out to us promptly and directly. We simply cannot help until we are aware of the issue. Once we are aware, we can begin the careful process of determining what the exact issue is, and how best to remedy it.

Thanks for reading, and safe vannin’ to all.

Taylor Grant
VP GoWesty

[levi]

Wow!
That IS amazing.
I know I'm a lucky guy, but to have 6 out of 6 sag out (3 sets, I'm assuming that's 1 in a thousand per spring since there is no left or right specific spring), so the odds of that happening were, let's see.... one in 1,000 × 1,000 × 1,000 × 1,000 × 1,000 × 1000.
That's like one in a trillion x a million.
I don't even know what that number is.
Whew!
Now THAT right there is bucking some pretty tall odds.
Thanks for making my day.
Peace.
I love Gowesty.
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[TaylorGrant]

Levi, I would like to review your account to see what officially transpired between yourself and GoWesty with regards to your claim. Please PM me your full name so I can look into it.

[drj434343]

[All4You]

to the folks at GoWesty
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[dschaftlein]

So, I've looked back at my e-mails with go westy regarding my spring issues. I want to give the straight story here.

We agreed that the springs were installed correctly and they did offer to replace them or ship them back for a refund. which is awesome!

At that point I decided it was too much effort to return them and decided shim the rear up to match the front (the front ride height was 18" on these zero lift springs which was higher than i wanted). They sent me the appropriate spacers at no charge and i shimmed the rear up to 18".

obviously there was an issue of some sort with these springs and they did offer solutions and I made the decision to keep them.

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[levi]

[IdahoDoug]

Wow, that sounds heavy. I think you should roll it over a scale. Find a nearby landfill or truck stop, and some other places of business (trucking businesses) will also have a scale.
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[E1]

[levi]

So if I'm understanding correctly, gowesty is unwilling to pay for the labor aspect of replacing the springs?

Are they still willing to refund your purchase price of the springs themselves?

I certainly hope so, since it DID say on their website that these springs have a lifetime guarantee AGAINST sagging!

So then, I fully understand the ongoing financial strain of maintaining a rig like ours when you're constantly on the road.
If you still want to switch out those springs ( or simply have to because of severe sag ) and you're unable to for whatever the reason, maybe a samba member can help out.

I know you're traveling, if you had another set of front springs with you and are in the Vegas area I'd be way more than happy to make the swap out for you, and then you could could return the sagged-out spring set to gowesty for a refund.

Last I heard the moog set was going for 50 bucks from any autozone type of place, and you could actually put a couple bucks into your pocket or break even on the deal.
I have all the tools necessary, all I'd need is another set of springs to go in.
Or maybe wherever you are a samba member would be willing to do the same.

Just an idea.
Btw, I don't think I'd want to do this when it's 117 here.
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[levi]

[levi]

Also can you tell us your current location and where you might be headed in the near future?
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but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way

https://youtu.be/cSrL0BXsO40

[Stuartzickefoose]

E1- I read this thread before, then you pm’d me and I just out the two together. I can help out with swapping the springs, and I even have a full 2wd stock spring setup in hand to “float” you while you deal with gowesty;)

Looking forward to our chat!

(For those watching, he is coming out of the Boise directional area (insure of actual location) into Portland last I heard.
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