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How often do you expect to break down?
Every Trip
10%
 10%  [ 6 ]
Every Other Trip
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Once Per Year
16%
 16%  [ 9 ]
Its Rare but S*(^% Happens
71%
 71%  [ 40 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:33 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Tbh, the only faults I've had on my VWs were my fault, not the car's.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

I’d prefer to vote “never”. The closest I’ve come to breaking down in the last 5 years of bus ownership was running out of gas - twice. Both times it was while driving home from my mechanic’s place. He apparently really likes my bus and “test” drives it a lot!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

AAA + just in case...Drive and enjoy!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

I like the “sailor” idea as I’ve thought about it that way many times (and I like sailing too). I’ll add another:

I’ve always done a “pre-flight checklist” before going anywhere. The way a pilot does before flying an airplane.

What I can’t emphasize enough is regular use of your rig. It helps you to get past the poor or deferred maintenance of the previous owner. It gives you time to become more familiar with, well, everything related to your Bus.

I remember your background from when we met. You definitely have the skills and attitude to have a great Bus. You are up against the mommy instinct, a force of nature. I think just a few successful trips will put her at ease.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Brian wrote:
Tbh, the only faults I've had on my VWs were my fault, not the car's.


This^^^

The last breakdown I suffered was a new to me used bus. I didn't remove and replace the craptastic cheap fuel pump in the first week of ownership. I new better and got bit.

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Thus, my earlier comments on people installing shitty, cheap parts and the consequences of those decisions.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

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Thus, my earlier comments on people installing shitty, cheap parts and the consequences of those decisions.


yea...junk parts and owners that have no clue are the main reason for breakdowns.

the reality is I carry ignition stuff, clutch/accelerator cables, fuel hose and a pump and valve cover gaskets. anything other than that is an ass ache to deal with on the road. I have to laugh at the guys who carry everything like they are running from a nuclear holocaust.

but, every car I own gets a FULL mechanical restoration/inspection before I put it into service anyway. seems to me the "ignorance is bliss" crowd has the most trouble on the road.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Back east we are a phone call for recovery.

Out west, You have to be more self sufficient, or at least pretend you are.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Wow a lot of great comments. You guys are making my argument stronger hahaha. Ive worked hard on this bus to avoid cheap aftermarket parts as much as possible.

I'm also on top of my maintenance abd repairs I even had Amskeptik come out and spend a day going through the bus with me.

She still doesn't trust it too much. I'm gonna have to work hard at convincing her that we may break down. But if we do our due diligence we should be good.

Also embrace the possibility that we may break down rather than let that stops us from enjoying the bus.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

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Back east we are a phone call for recovery.

Out west, You have to be more self sufficient, or at least pretend you are.
Come on out to the least populous state in the lower 48, we’ll see how you fare.... Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Sally the Bus wrote:
... She still doesn't trust it too much. I'm gonna have to work hard at convincing her that we may break down...


Gee, I’d like to listen in on that... Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Sally the Bus wrote:
Wow a lot of great comments. You guys are making my argument stronger hahaha. Ive worked hard on this bus to avoid cheap aftermarket parts as much as possible.

I'm also on top of my maintenance abd repairs I even had Amskeptik come out and spend a day going through the bus with me.

She still doesn't trust it too much. I'm gonna have to work hard at convincing her that we may break down. But if we do our due diligence we should be good.

Also embrace the possibility that we may break down rather than let that stops us from enjoying the bus.


Why do brand new cars have warranties? Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

I would love to say that I never expect to break down, and that I am fastidious and therefore nothing bad ever happens, but the reality is different and the data don't lie.

I try to be a conscientious steward of my Type 2s. But going through all the systems takes time, and it is sometimes not practical to get through everything, down to inspecting and lubricating every cable, and rebuilding the distributor. These are rolling restorations, and if I am to go anywhere, if the vehicle has not been completely gone through, there are gonna be issues.

I have had to rebuild the rear brakes in an arroyo in Big Bend Natl Park, and limp out of the woods on battery alone and replace an alternator at the KOA, and replace an exploded generator at a truck stop. This is why I carry spares. I don't get stranded because I am prepared.

In short, if I'm going to use my Type 2 for significant travel, I expect to get some maintenance done along the way. Heck -- check out what Colin has had to deal with in his impeccably maintained buses.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

wcfvw69 wrote:
Brian wrote:
Tbh, the only faults I've had on my VWs were my fault, not the car's.


This^^^

The last breakdown I suffered was a new to me used bus. I didn't remove and replace the craptastic cheap fuel pump in the first week of ownership. I new better and got bit.

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Thus, my earlier comments on people installing shitty, cheap parts and the consequences of those decisions.



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That ^^^^^^ is why I carry zip ties & duct tape, and all kinds of tools & parts. That ^^ was my Bud Rob's Split Westy, coming home from Flanders, 1st he stopped when he found me on the side of the road fixing the shift rod arm on my '91, then I stopped as he was flashing his lights and pulling over, that fricken pin had backed out, so, zip ties & duct tape got him home.

I carry as much stuff as I can, plus give as much "break down time" built into any trip I take w/ my older rigs, and the AAA plus card is right in my wallet..........
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Sally the Bus wrote:
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Sorry, I can't participate in your poll, you neglected to include a "never" option.


Hahaha I did included but it didn't show up for some reason



You have to hit “add new” for the final option, so there will appear to be a empty one on the last box.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

I never expect to break down, if I expected to break down I wouldn’t Drive it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

The beauty of the VW was not that it was super reliable (even when new) but that most problems were easy to repair with minimal tools and it reacted well to a bit of scrambling and jury rigging to get you home.

I have had my '71 Westfalia almost three years. I know the quirks and have had most issues caused by PO cheap parts and jury rigging fixed. I have had 5 major issues: 1 transmission issue which I caught and got my mechanic to fix before it went bad (always listen for expensive noises!) and 4 on the road, only one of which left me stranded: 1. Generator bearings went bad; generator light came on and stopped charging the battery. It squealed like hell but I got home and replaced it. 2. Burned up valve and rings on #4 and lost compression on that cylinder; still drivable but topped out at 50mph. That one meant new cylinders and heads (hot tip here was I was probably pushing the engine too hard when I first owned it trying to drive at 70+. Now I keep it around 60.) 3. Clutch cable clevis pin broke; with a little foot coordination and finesse' you can get home without a working clutch pedal; replaced the pin myself the next day and back on the road. 4. Generator pulley self-destructed, literally flew apart! Probably a cheap Chinese Part. Broke the fan belt and cut one of the vacuum lines as it rattled around the engine bay. That one sidelined me for a Saturday night but I was able to tow to a friends place, get the part form my mechanic and fix it myself that Monday. Also on occasion after a long drive the starter simply won't turnover despite all evidence it is getting power. I roll underneath with a ball peen hammer, give the starter a couple of whacks and it fires right up!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

TomWesty wrote:
Abscate wrote:
Back east we are a phone call for recovery.

Out west, You have to be more self sufficient, or at least pretend you are.
Come on out to the least populous state in the lower 48, we’ll see how you fare.... Cool


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Frequency of breakdown?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

FWIW, 2 of our business's new Ford Transits have been in the shop for recalls twice over the past year.

Number of Bus breakdowns in the past year: 0

Number of times routine maintenance and/or inspection was done on the weekends during the past year: Lots.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: How often do you expect to break down? Reply with quote

Sally the Bus wrote:


I'm also on top of my maintenance abd repairs I even had Amskeptic come out and spend a day going through the bus with me.

She still doesn't trust it too much.



Then invite me out to spend a day making her do an entire tune-up and a couple of trouble-shooting scenarios with the bus. Trust doesn't just happen, it is earned.
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